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		<title>By: Lin</title>
		<link>http://sydwalker.info/blog/against-hate-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-12803</link>
		<dc:creator>Lin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Apr 2011 05:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that you&#039;re being very selective with choosing Answers for your definitions. My Macquarie, fourth ed.,  meaning it is not entirely up-to-date, has eight definitions. 

I&#039;m presuming that you speak and write British/Aussie English and someone needs to point out that people used to that language know that you can make compound adjectives by hyphenating two or more words. Consequently &lt;i&gt;hate-speech activities&lt;/i&gt; are understandable by anybody with a minimum experience in English. 

Anyone who goes about saying that any English word is a &lt;i&gt;faux&lt;/i&gt; different-mode-of-speech is flying in the face of the way English grammar works! You might, just to help yourself, look up how many words Shakespeare introduced into English and how many he changed the meaning. You might buy yourself an Archaic English Dictionary too, before you trot out American English definitions of what are right and what&#039;s wrong with someone&#039;s writings. 

A writer who says&#8212;&lt;blockquote&gt;Dictionary-makers have thus far been rather unconstrained in their freedom to define it exactly as they please.&lt;/blockquote&gt;just doesn&#039;t have any idea at all about the work that goes into defining the meanings of words and establishing the specifics of how the word is used by being able to quote the etymology of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that you&#8217;re being very selective with choosing Answers for your definitions. My Macquarie, fourth ed.,  meaning it is not entirely up-to-date, has eight definitions. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m presuming that you speak and write British/Aussie English and someone needs to point out that people used to that language know that you can make compound adjectives by hyphenating two or more words. Consequently <i>hate-speech activities</i> are understandable by anybody with a minimum experience in English. </p>
<p>Anyone who goes about saying that any English word is a <i>faux</i> different-mode-of-speech is flying in the face of the way English grammar works! You might, just to help yourself, look up how many words Shakespeare introduced into English and how many he changed the meaning. You might buy yourself an Archaic English Dictionary too, before you trot out American English definitions of what are right and what&#8217;s wrong with someone&#8217;s writings. </p>
<p>A writer who says&mdash;<br />
<blockquote>Dictionary-makers have thus far been rather unconstrained in their freedom to define it exactly as they please.</p></blockquote>
<p>just doesn&#8217;t have any idea at all about the work that goes into defining the meanings of words and establishing the specifics of how the word is used by being able to quote the etymology of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Getting back to roots: How I became a Semite &#124; sydwalker.info</title>
		<link>http://sydwalker.info/blog/against-hate-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-2553</link>
		<dc:creator>Getting back to roots: How I became a Semite &#124; sydwalker.info</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 02:36:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kersasp</title>
		<link>http://sydwalker.info/blog/against-hate-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-2061</link>
		<dc:creator>Kersasp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 09:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very insightful little piece.  Re:
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Note 2:  A thoughtful person, who helped me appreciate the inherent absurdity of the term &#039;hate speech&#039; before I first wrote this item, provided further insight in subsequent correspondence.
He points out (how did I miss it?) more appropriate terms that might have been chosen in lieu of &#039;hate speech&#039;. These are the expressions &#039;hateful speech&#039; and &#039;hated speech&#039;. In both cases, a genuine adjective is combined with the noun.
So why don&#039;t we hear of &#039;hateful speech&#039; and &#039;hated speech&#039;? Why were these more obvious terms overlooked?
Is it because the ambiguity of &#039;hate&#039; as a faux adjective is useful to those who employ the term &#039;hate speech&#039;?
&#039;Hate speech&#039; can be construed as speech that&#039;s motivated by hatred - and speech that is hated by others. It can be either - or both. The ambiguity helps sustain the insinuation that speech which is &#039;hated&#039; must necessarily have been motivated by hatred.
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What hit me instantaneously wrt &quot;why don&#039;t we hear of &#039;hateful speech&#039; and &#039;hated speech&#039;? Why were these more obvious terms overlooked?&quot; is this: &#039;hateful speech&#039;: hateful *to whom*? &#039;hated speech&#039;: hated *by whom*?  Hateful and hated both imply relativity and objectivity.  But &#039;hate&#039; is the absolute and root form of the concept; it is not a derivative word.  That word does not raise to consciousness any subjectivity or relativity because no party is implied.  The word &#039;hate&#039; is absolute and objective, it exists on its own, and when combined with &#039;speech&#039; it provokes no questions in most minds.  I think these are the reasons the term was chosen.

I portend a marriage of sorts (after our generation is gone; these things are incremental).  A marriage between the official catchphrase &#039;hate speech&#039; and the unofficial term &#039;thought crime&#039;.  Their progeny will be &#039;hate thought&#039; (probably punishable by incarceration and death in the dystopia to come).  It will be the first bastard birth that is lawfully born.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very insightful little piece.  Re:<br />
–––––––––––––––––<br />
Note 2:  A thoughtful person, who helped me appreciate the inherent absurdity of the term &#8216;hate speech&#8217; before I first wrote this item, provided further insight in subsequent correspondence.<br />
He points out (how did I miss it?) more appropriate terms that might have been chosen in lieu of &#8216;hate speech&#8217;. These are the expressions &#8216;hateful speech&#8217; and &#8216;hated speech&#8217;. In both cases, a genuine adjective is combined with the noun.<br />
So why don&#8217;t we hear of &#8216;hateful speech&#8217; and &#8216;hated speech&#8217;? Why were these more obvious terms overlooked?<br />
Is it because the ambiguity of &#8216;hate&#8217; as a faux adjective is useful to those who employ the term &#8216;hate speech&#8217;?<br />
&#8216;Hate speech&#8217; can be construed as speech that&#8217;s motivated by hatred &#8211; and speech that is hated by others. It can be either &#8211; or both. The ambiguity helps sustain the insinuation that speech which is &#8216;hated&#8217; must necessarily have been motivated by hatred.<br />
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<p>What hit me instantaneously wrt &#8220;why don&#8217;t we hear of &#8216;hateful speech&#8217; and &#8216;hated speech&#8217;? Why were these more obvious terms overlooked?&#8221; is this: &#8216;hateful speech&#8217;: hateful *to whom*? &#8216;hated speech&#8217;: hated *by whom*?  Hateful and hated both imply relativity and objectivity.  But &#8216;hate&#8217; is the absolute and root form of the concept; it is not a derivative word.  That word does not raise to consciousness any subjectivity or relativity because no party is implied.  The word &#8216;hate&#8217; is absolute and objective, it exists on its own, and when combined with &#8216;speech&#8217; it provokes no questions in most minds.  I think these are the reasons the term was chosen.</p>
<p>I portend a marriage of sorts (after our generation is gone; these things are incremental).  A marriage between the official catchphrase &#8216;hate speech&#8217; and the unofficial term &#8216;thought crime&#8217;.  Their progeny will be &#8216;hate thought&#8217; (probably punishable by incarceration and death in the dystopia to come).  It will be the first bastard birth that is lawfully born.</p>
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		<title>By: Kersasp</title>
		<link>http://sydwalker.info/blog/against-hate-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-2060</link>
		<dc:creator>Kersasp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 09:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very insightful little piece.  Re:
–––––––––––––––––
Note 2:  A thoughtful person, who helped me appreciate the inherent absurdity of the term &#039;hate speech&#039; before I first wrote this item, provided further insight in subsequent correspondence.
He points out (how did I miss it?) more appropriate terms that might have been chosen in lieu of &#039;hate speech&#039;. These are the expressions &#039;hateful speech&#039; and &#039;hated speech&#039;. In both cases, a genuine adjective is combined with the noun.
So why don&#039;t we hear of &#039;hateful speech&#039; and &#039;hated speech&#039;? Why were these more obvious terms overlooked?
Is it because the ambiguity of &#039;hate&#039; as a faux adjective is useful to those who employ the term &#039;hate speech&#039;?
&#039;Hate speech&#039; can be construed as speech that&#039;s motivated by hatred - and speech that is hated by others. It can be either - or both. The ambiguity helps sustain the insinuation that speech which is &#039;hated&#039; must necessarily have been motivated by hatred.
–––––––––––––––––
What hit me instantaneously wrt &quot;why don&#039;t we hear of &#039;hateful speech&#039; and &#039;hated speech&#039;? Why were these more obvious terms overlooked?&quot; is this: &#039;hateful speech&#039;: hateful *to whom*? &#039;hated speech&#039;: hated *by whom*?  Hateful and hated both imply relativity and objectivity.  But &#039;hate&#039; is the absolute and root form of the concept; it is not a derivative word.  That word does not raise to consciousness any subjectivity or relativity because no party is implied.  The word &#039;hate&#039; is absolute and objective, it exists on its own, and when combined with &#039;speech&#039; it provokes no questions in most minds.  I think these are the reasons the term was chosen.

I portend a marriage of sorts (after our generation is gone; these things are incremental).  A marriage between the official catchphrase &#039;hate speech&#039; and the unofficial term &#039;thought crime&#039;.  Their progeny will be &#039;hate thought&#039; (probably punishable by incarceration and death in the dystopia to come).  It will be the first bastard birth that is lawfully born.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very insightful little piece.  Re:<br />
–––––––––––––––––<br />
Note 2:  A thoughtful person, who helped me appreciate the inherent absurdity of the term &#8216;hate speech&#8217; before I first wrote this item, provided further insight in subsequent correspondence.<br />
He points out (how did I miss it?) more appropriate terms that might have been chosen in lieu of &#8216;hate speech&#8217;. These are the expressions &#8216;hateful speech&#8217; and &#8216;hated speech&#8217;. In both cases, a genuine adjective is combined with the noun.<br />
So why don&#8217;t we hear of &#8216;hateful speech&#8217; and &#8216;hated speech&#8217;? Why were these more obvious terms overlooked?<br />
Is it because the ambiguity of &#8216;hate&#8217; as a faux adjective is useful to those who employ the term &#8216;hate speech&#8217;?<br />
&#8216;Hate speech&#8217; can be construed as speech that&#8217;s motivated by hatred &#8211; and speech that is hated by others. It can be either &#8211; or both. The ambiguity helps sustain the insinuation that speech which is &#8216;hated&#8217; must necessarily have been motivated by hatred.<br />
–––––––––––––––––<br />
What hit me instantaneously wrt &#8220;why don&#8217;t we hear of &#8216;hateful speech&#8217; and &#8216;hated speech&#8217;? Why were these more obvious terms overlooked?&#8221; is this: &#8216;hateful speech&#8217;: hateful *to whom*? &#8216;hated speech&#8217;: hated *by whom*?  Hateful and hated both imply relativity and objectivity.  But &#8216;hate&#8217; is the absolute and root form of the concept; it is not a derivative word.  That word does not raise to consciousness any subjectivity or relativity because no party is implied.  The word &#8216;hate&#8217; is absolute and objective, it exists on its own, and when combined with &#8216;speech&#8217; it provokes no questions in most minds.  I think these are the reasons the term was chosen.</p>
<p>I portend a marriage of sorts (after our generation is gone; these things are incremental).  A marriage between the official catchphrase &#8216;hate speech&#8217; and the unofficial term &#8216;thought crime&#8217;.  Their progeny will be &#8216;hate thought&#8217; (probably punishable by incarceration and death in the dystopia to come).  It will be the first bastard birth that is lawfully born.</p>
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		<title>By: sydwalker.info &#187; Blog Archive &#187; A Pictorial Guide to Hate Avoidance</title>
		<link>http://sydwalker.info/blog/against-hate-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-1983</link>
		<dc:creator>sydwalker.info &#187; Blog Archive &#187; A Pictorial Guide to Hate Avoidance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 03:44:25 +0000</pubDate>
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