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The Soxir Style of Reporting
August 11th, 2011 by Syd Walker

Libya continues to be hit, on average, approximately every half hour by a NATO bombing attack in a ‘campaign’ of wreaking murderous damage that’s been underway for five months and counting.

For me, one consequence of following the bloody events in Libya has been making the acquaintance – from a safe distance – of some of the western journalists reporting from Libya.

Tripoli-based reporters stay at the now-legendary Rixos Hotel. It’s an arrangement that seems to suit all sides, despite routine grumbles from the valiant ladies and gentlemen of the ‘free press’ and bouts of quite extraordinary paranoia (The Guardian informs us one ‘journalist’ refused all hot food, believing it to be spiked with sedatives!)

Importantly, as long as these westerners remain at the Rixos,  NATO can avoid the embarrassment of wiping out the entire western press corp by ‘mistake’ . That would be a terrible blow to the prestige of western humanitarians. Unlike their Libyan hosts, the Rixos set have real faces, real friends, real families and lives that matter.

The Libyan Government, for its part, can keep a close eye on the bastards while they’re staying at the Rixos. This is typically portrayed as ‘paranoia’ on the part of the Government. Those who make the claim seem to have forgotten how many German journalists were allowed to report freely from London during World War Two – and how the British State might have dealt with any who tried.

Ivan Watson, CNN

Ivan Watson, CNN. Spends most nights tucked up safely 'embed' at the Rixos

On any given day, a Twitter search for “Rixos” is a way of getting some idea which western journalists are in Tripoli and what they’re up to. There has been quite a turnover since March! It’s been like a soap opera for news junkies.

Ivan Watson, who works for CNN, is neither the worst nor the best of the Rixos crowd. He’s easy to tease because of his movie-star wannabee photo. But in fairness, one senses occasional attempts on his part to explain the full horror of what’s happening and even register a murmur of protest. Here’s his recent report, filed soon after attending a mass funeral near Zliten. In this unusual case, the articulate Libyan Government spokseman, Moussa Ibrahim, actually gets a few coherent sentences in edgeways on the tape.

Yet the lapse is only temporary. Ivan is back on track almost straight away – posing once again as the hard-nosed, sceptical, ‘can’t fool me’ style of reporter that his bosses expect… while Ivan is in Libya.

In case the CNN overlords send Mr Watson to London next, I’ve taken the liberty of writing his next story, using the same ‘Rixos-style’ of reporting – a technique that shows western journalists haven’t entirely lost the capacity for scepticism).

Here it is:

Ivan goes to London

Yesterday, travelling by bus with other reporters based at London’s Soxir Hotel, I was taken to witness dramatic scenes apparently caused by people the UK regime describes as ‘rioters’.

We saw what appeared to be many burning buildings. However, it was impossible for us to confirm these fires were, as the regime asserts, lit by rebellious civilians.

We also observed what did appear to be riots in progress. Some people seemed noticeably angry, but it was not possible for us to verify they were genuine rioters.

A massive police presence on the streets shows the isolated Cameron regime is still struggling to re-impose dictatorial rule.

Unverified London fire

A shop on fire in London, August 2011. Claims by the Cameron regime that this fire was started by rioters cannot be independently verified

A spokesman for the regime claimed hundreds of fires have been started by ‘rioters’ in recent days. That claim cannot be independently confirmed. Estimates of damage vary widely.

The only ordinary Britons willing to talk openly with us claimed to support the Government. I witnessed at least one surreptitious thumbs down sign. It’s hard to guage accurately the full extent of opposition to Downing Street.

The respected Tripoli-based ‘Committee for Protection of British Property’ yesterday issued a statement strongly condemning the Cameron Government for complicity in burning down its own peoples’ shops and homes.

“The world community demands that Cameron steps down immediately!” said CPBP Chairman Dr I’m-Ratha-Spooki, speaking by satellite phone from an undisclosed location.

__________________________________________

Also by Ivan Watson: In Libya – as always in war – civilians pay highest price (August 5th 2011)


53 Responses  
  • brian writes:
    August 11th, 20113:12 pmat

    Months of conjecture will follow these riots. Already, the internet is teeming with racist vitriol and wild speculation. The truth is that very few people know why this is happening. They don’t know, because they were not watching these communities. Nobody has been watching Tottenham since the television cameras drifted away after the Broadwater Farm riots of 1985. Most of the people who will be writing, speaking and pontificating about the disorder this weekend have absolutely no idea what it is like to grow up in a community where there are no jobs, no space to live or move, and the police are on the streets stopping-and-searching you as you come home from school. The people who do will be waking up this week in the sure and certain knowledge that after decades of being ignored and marginalised and harassed by the police, after months of seeing any conceivable hope of a better future confiscated, they are finally on the news. In one NBC report, a young man in Tottenham was asked if rioting really achieved anything:
    “Yes,” said the young man. “You wouldn’t be talking to me now if we didn’t riot, would you?”
    “Two months ago we marched to Scotland Yard, more than 2,000 of us, all blacks, and it was peaceful and calm and you know what? Not a word in the press. Last night a bit of rioting and looting and look around you.”
    Eavesdropping from among the onlookers, I looked around. A dozen TV crews and newspaper reporters interviewing the young men everywhere ‘’’
    There are communities all over the country that nobody paid attention to unless there had recently been a riot or a murdered child. Well, they’re paying attention now.

    http://pennyred.blogspot.com/2011/08/panic-on-streets-of-london.html

      

    • Nick writes:
      August 11th, 20115:05 pmat

      Surely these riots were instigated by outside “agents”, like the ones in Iran,Egypt and Syria ?

      People don’t just rise up, because they are unhappy with their government, feel marginalized ,are discriminated against because of their race, tribe, political or religious affiliation or have no jobs and are being harassed by authorities ?

      I also noticed the absence of tanks and any indiscriminate shooting of protesters by security forces and government thugs…

      Have the Western media somehow managed to suppress all that ?

        

      • Syd Walker writes:
        August 11th, 20115:29 pmat

        It is precisely the lack of outside influence that makes the UK riots quite different from Libya & Syria, Nick. Just to spell it out…

          

        • Nick writes:
          August 11th, 20118:06 pmat

          So you are completely rejecting the existence of any domestic tensions in Iran and Syria, similar to those in the UK ?

          I think you are quite arrogantly dismissing the ambitions of a whole generation of young people in places like Iran and Syria.

          I find that extraordinary.

          I am not denying that outside forces are trying to take advantage of the unrest in Syria. I just do not think they are the cause of it. There is widespread dissatisfaction with the regime of Assad.

          And I was being sarcastic in my previous post, Syd, just to spell it out…

            

          • brian writes:
            August 12th, 20119:15 amat

            No surprise that troll Nick comes to the defence of another made-in-america colour revolution!
            as if Georgia, ukraine, Iran, Libya, eyypt tunisia havent taught us lessons.

            there is widespread satisfaction with Assan…There is also widespread disatisfaction with both repubs and dems in the US, wih labor and tory in UK: eve labr and libeal in australia etc so why dont we see the same sort of agitation there that we see in the usual target states?

              

            • Nick writes:
              August 12th, 201110:55 amat

              brian writes: “comes to the defence of another made-in-america colour revolution!”

              I have no idea what you mean, Brian.

              I do not share your negative and pessimistic outlook on life and it is a pity you cannot engage in any form of rational debate, but need to constantly resort to personal insults.

              It appears you get all your information from trawling the internet. You must have a team of researchers on stand-by who verify that everything you copy and paste here is correct and true.

              Or maybe you just cherry pick the stuff that suits your narrative and pass it off as “the truth” !

              Your simple ‘truth” has scary, evangelical overtones…

                

            • brian writes:
              August 12th, 20118:37 pmat

              i dont share you political ignorance.
              The goal of rational debate is to control peoples understanding of issues…telling the truth with debates like you is a minor issue.

              eg little youvbe said so far has any basis in fact of evidence.

                

  • brian writes:
    August 11th, 20113:15 pmat

    CNN in Libya: not a sterling eg of journalism:

    BREAKING NEWS: NATO Massacres of Civilians Aimed at “Cleansing” the Libyan People’s Resistance
    Photographic Evidence of NATO War Crimes
    by Mahdi Darius Nazemroaya

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=25966

      

  • brian writes:
    August 11th, 20116:47 pmat

    Before someone webscrubs that title, whivch you’ve gotta love for its boldness….

    ‘I’ve covered the war in Libya and it looks like Croydon’
    http://www.scotsman.com/news/I39ve-covered-the-war-in.6815936.jp

    Whats missing is NATOs coming to the aid of the protestors!

      

  • sentience writes:
    August 12th, 201111:04 amat
  • sentience writes:
    August 12th, 201111:21 amat

    here’ one for you brian, as you seem to be interested in marxism.
    http://www.toqonline.com/blog/what-is-communism/

      

    • brian writes:
      August 12th, 20118:34 pmat

      what makes you think im interested in marxism?

        

      • sentience writes:
        August 12th, 20118:36 pmat

        mugabe, castro.

          

        • brian writes:
          August 12th, 20119:03 pmat

          LOL if thats a sample of your reasoning/inference powers,…no wonder youre all at sea over Libya! better go back to youre knitting

            

          • sentience writes:
            August 13th, 20112:12 amat

            i’m agnostic on libya and gaddafi. his business isn’t ours, anymore than mugabe’s atrocities or castro’s prison-state deserves intervention or retaliation by the west. that’s my ethic, everyone to minds their business. defense, not offense.

              

            • brian writes:
              August 13th, 201111:06 amat

              there are no Mugabe atrocities…other than taking back land stolen from native peoples

              remember..he was knighted!LOL
              Cuba is not a prison state…thatd be the US…ask any black american!

                

  • sentience writes:
    August 12th, 201112:36 pmat

    an excerpt from the above:
    “In addition, the inner party recognized that accepting lower returns on their investments in the press and the media was the least costly and most effective means of converting economic power into political power. This strategy guaranteed the inner party a blocking position sufficient to prevent these organs of public opinion from being used to organize the new arrivals from the countryside to challenge the inner party.”

      

  • brian writes:
    August 12th, 20118:55 pmat

    ‘The only head above the crowd is that of Muammar Gaddafi. The Atlantic Alliance has a fixation on Gaddafi. Is he not the “Father of the Nation”? By eliminating him, they would destroy the principle of authority in Libyan society, which would instantly slide into an Iraqi-like scenario and plunge into chaos. But, unlike the Iraqi precedent, the tribal structure and the horizontal organization of power would endure. Even if torn by internal conflicts, the Libyan people remain an organic entity in the face of the foreign invasion. Not only would this not solve any military problem, but would blur the delimitations of the theater of operations; the war would inevitably expand to North Africa as well as to southern Europe. Finally, killing Gaddafi would probably be the worst option.

    In the absence of any suitable strategy, the Atlantic Alliance reverted to the old reflexes of US military culture, those of the Korean and Vietnam Wars: to make life impossible for the population so that it will turn against its “Guide” and finally topple him. Thus, since the beginning of Ramadan, NATO has strengthened the naval blockade to cut the gasoline and food supplies; bombarded power plants and water supply systems; destroyed the agricultural cooperatives, the small fishing ports and the covered markets.’
    http://www.voltairenet.org/NATO-reneges-on-its-mission

      

  • Nick writes:
    August 13th, 20117:52 amat

    brian writes:”The goal of rational debate is to control peoples understanding of issues…telling the truth is a minor issue”.

    You sum up neatly what you are all about Brian, an unashamed spreader of propaganda ! Is that straight out of someone’s little green book ?

    You are either an embittered old fool who should know better, or very young and inexperienced with some sort of strange superiority complex.It is a pity the old DDR doesn’t exist anymore. You would have felt right at home there ,working for the STASI. Then you could have “controlled people” without having to worry about any “truth”.

    brian writes: ” little you’ve said so far has any basis in fact of evidence”.

    As opposed to your dodgy cut and paste jobs and dubious YouTube clips ? Do you have any original thoughts at all ?

    I have provided plenty of solid evidence to back up the points I am trying to get across to you, but you are unable to accept anything that doesn’t fit the narrative of your simple black and white world.

    Enjoy your ignorance, because your views are so marginal they hardly matter in the scheme of things.

      

    • brian writes:
      August 13th, 201111:02 amat

      an old tactic of wily tacticians is to claim your opponent does what you are doing. NATO loving NICK seems to like this method./

      your evidence is zero..esp

      cut and paste…articles, youtube videos…Naturally NICK is offended by evidence.

      NOW since NICKsays Youtube cant be used,nor curt and paste of anythng, his ‘evidence’ is reduced to his made up stories!LOLOLL
      Nick keeps showing he is with NATO all the way till the last free and resisting Libyan is butchered or Libya is back in colonial hands.

        

      • Nick writes:
        August 13th, 20113:27 pmat

        You’re a real scream, BRIAN,LOL.

        Gaddafi is just about finished, Mugabe and Fidel are near death. You have an uncanny ability to back losers,BRIAN

        BRIAN loves old dictators

        LOL,LOL

        His favourite song is “Twist and Shout”.

        “Twist the truth” and “Shout about it”, even though no one is listening.

        LOL,LOL

        Yes, put Libya and Zimbabwe back in colonial hands by all means. They were much better off then.

        LOL,LOL….

        I can post about a thousand doctored YouTube links to prove it

        LOL,LOL

        In fact, you can prove anything like to believe by posting links to the work of other people who have the same views as you…

        Hilarious isn’t it no-brain BRIAN ?

          

        • brian writes:
          August 13th, 20115:36 pmat

          gadafi is not yet finished(so far NATO has not been able to murder him, which im sure youre very sad at)…the US and UK and their dictators are nearly finished.
          Brian likes old revolutionaries…esp when they are hated by dumb americans and similar cattle.

          ‘Yes, put Libya and Zimbabwe back in colonial hands by all means. They were much better off then.’

          even the liban insurgents dont say that: only white men hate it when black people rule themselves.

          ‘In fact, you can prove anything like to believe by posting links to the work of other people who have the same views as you…’

          LOL et tu? or do you prefer your own ideas?

            

          • Nick writes:
            August 14th, 201112:15 pmat

            brian writes:

            ‘Yes, put Libya and Zimbabwe back in colonial hands by all means. They were much better off then.’

            “even the liban insurgents dont say that: only white men hate it when black people rule themselves.”

            You are priceless Brian and so predictable every time. Since you don’t seem to be capable of rational debate, I just gave you some bait.

            And you swallowed it hook, line and sinker…

            brian writes:”The goal of rational debate is to control peoples understanding of issues…telling the truth is a minor issue”.

            And this bizarre statement nicely sums up what you are all about.

              

        • Syd Walker writes:
          August 13th, 20116:06 pmat

          Ghadafi is still in power, Nick, despite nearly 7,000 NATO bombing raids, including attempts to slaughter him personally, one of which succeeded in murdering his son and grandchildren.

          Likewise, Mugabe and Castro are ‘losers’ only in your imagination.

          On occasion your comments can be useful, IMO, forcing the likes of me and Brian to documents our case and keeping us on our toes, as critics do.

          However, in this case I think you descend into an unpleasant form of silliness. Gloating about the age of elderly people is not a nice trait. Nor does it do much for your reputation as someone with ‘humanitarian’ concerns that you whoop with glee at the prospect that NATO’s utterly murderous, imperialistic bombing MAY finally succeed in toppling a government that clearly enjoys broad popularity within Libya, a nation under attack for no ethical reasons whatsoever.

          I hope you are wrong and that your predictions of Ghadafi’s imminent demise are as inaccurate as the media jackals’ shrieks back in February, when experts reliably informed us all that the ‘regime’ was already on its last legs.

          Very stable last legs, when you come to think about it. Contrast the absurd western-backed TNC, which sacked its entire ‘Board of Management’; some days ago and whose purported leader Jalil, last time I checked, was still in Turkey. It’s rumoured Jalil is too scared to return to Benghazi as Younis’ family blame him personally for the General’s assassination and his powerful tribe is waiting to settle the score with Jalil… “with extreme prejudice” as the Americans say.

            

          • Nick writes:
            August 14th, 201112:12 pmat

            Syd Walker writes:”On occasion your comments can be useful, IMO, forcing the likes of me and Brian to documents our case and keeping us on our toes, as critics do.

            However, in this case I think you descend into an unpleasant form of silliness.”

            I admit to descending into silliness, Syd.It was a regrettable reaction to Brian’s spectacular failure to engage in any sort of meaningful debate and his constant resorting to personal attacks and insults.

            I really don’t take kindly to fanatics trying to shout me down.

            Rest assured that I have great respect for the elderly. I once was a great admirer of both Mugabe and Castro. I just wish they had retired before turning into tiresome despots and foregoing the ideals that brought them to power in the first place.The same could maybe be said about Ghadafi and his ruling clique.

            My personal dislike for Ghadafi does not mean that I am a supporter of the NATO air strikes , as Brian alleges.

            It might be hard to understand for some people, (who live in a simple world where everything is either black or white), that not agreeing with one party in a conflict does not mean that you automatically support the actions of the other…

              

            • brian writes:
              August 14th, 20116:00 pmat

              debate? sorry Nick but im not here for you to bounce balls off and yes debate is meaningless as we have no audience to persuade with our views and yours are set in virginia stone.
              what im doing is disputing your take on Libya Zimbabwe etc.

              i also dont take to fanatics who like to knife every independent leader alive…If you admirer Mugabe it was while he was working with the IMF…im surprised you admired him at all as you seek to use your view of past to attack him. When did you ever admire castro? was that before the Revolution?

              Ive no idea why you personally dislike Gadafi as youve never met the man! Likr NATO and the US govt you hate him because hes an impediment in the way of foreign domination of Libya.

              and yes you support NATO airstrikes because thats the only way you can get rid of Gadafi !

                

  • brian writes:
    August 13th, 201110:57 amat

    NATOs Zliten military targets hold a press conference:

    http://lizziesliberation.wordpress.com/2011/08/12/the-people-of-majer-zlitan-natos-military-targets/

    these are the people whose families were butchered by NATO, which then claimed it didnt kill any civilians(not that they went to Zliten to find out)

      

  • sentience writes:
    August 13th, 20111:46 pmat

    to brian:
    quite so, and that’s the very point. i can ask any american black. liberty of expression is still enshrined as a constitutional right.

    interesting how cuba’s economic ruin coincides with the island’s rapprochement with the neo-con agenda on iran. i guess that’s realpolitik for you.
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2010/09/08/us-cuba-castro-idUSTRE6874LC20100908

      

    • brian writes:
      August 13th, 20115:29 pmat

      LOL liberty expression? try to talk, write and post you want to assassinate Obama? do that publically and see what happens.

        

  • sentience writes:
    August 13th, 20112:33 pmat

      

    • brian writes:
      August 13th, 20115:32 pmat

      so that make him a good capitalist!

        

  • brian writes:
    August 13th, 20115:38 pmat

    after the alleged atrocities in Matebeleland, the Queen gave Mugabe a knighthood, and Uni of Massachussets a honorary Phd!

    interesting!

      

  • brian writes:
    August 13th, 20119:15 pmat
  • sentience writes:
    August 13th, 20119:24 pmat

    mugabe’s only helped his own tribe, and the country is in a shambles. mean longevity is in the mid-thirties, and south africa is full of (black) zimbabwean refugees, botswana likewise. they’re despised by the local blacks (labelled “cockroaches”) for the downward pressure they exert on wage rates for the unskilled.

    amnesty international certainly doesn’t have good things to say about the regime’s tolerance for civil discourse.
    http://www.amnesty.org/en/library/info/AFR46/016/2011/en

    that said, outsiders’ concerns are best directed through private charities/churches and not through troops and military interventions. he’s their bastard alone, and good luck to them.

    idem castro, if the us hadn’t enfored the stupid embargo and gone after him militarily, then he’d long since have been deprived of an easy scapegoat.

      

    • brian writes:
      August 13th, 201111:52 pmat

      Zimbabwe in a shambles? wonder it the IMF structural adjustments which Mugabe at first followed, and which won him praise from the centers of capital, but which were abandoned when the effects, as you noticed , became apparent:ie cause countries to turn to shambles(re Argentina). It was after that the centres of capital turned against Zimbabwe….leading to the formation of the MDC and efforts to undermine Mugabes popularity by making the economy scream thru sanctions (further shambling it)…

      Amnesty recently said NATO should investigate claims it has committed atrocities in Libya…we can take it its reputation is in shambles!

      thanks for the laugh! You need to do a bit more homework

      PS Cuba is still free and thats thanks to Castros leadership role. I notice you are not outraged ( hadn’t enfored the stupid embargo and gone after him militarily) just disappointed…
      You sound like a US state dept reject.

        

      • Nick writes:
        August 14th, 20111:23 pmat

        There seems to be a pattern here :

        -angry denial of the facts
        -ridicule or the magic letters LOL (cackles to himself loudly)
        -insults/personal attack

        Followed by some unverifiable links “supporting” the latest dictum.

        All very mature and convincing…

          

        • brian writes:
          August 14th, 20115:34 pmat

          yes you are denying the facts, and engaged in angry attacks on persons who have done more good than youd ever be capable of.
          Ive yet to see back your attacks with any supporting evidence…but plenty of accusations backed by the white mans LOL

          youre as convincing as NATOS Foggy Rasmussen with his: we dont kill civilians

            

          • Nick writes:
            August 14th, 20117:14 pmat

            Twist and Shout, Brian, Twist and Shout.

            What’s this constant referral to the “white man” ?

            Are you a non-white man with a chip on your shoulder ?

            Or are you carrying some sort of collective guilt ?

            Is that where all this anger is coming from ?

              

            • brian writes:
              August 14th, 201111:48 pmat

              well its the white men who are running these wars against arabs and africans…its as if their ‘civilisation’ was just a posture, as they talk fine about human rights and the rule of law…then proceed to ignore them….right?
              where is the anger coming from? you might try the invasion of Libya and massacre of up to 2000 civilians by those who claim to be acting out of benevolence…and allow me a LOL chuckle.You may not find it wryly amusing..but then you are one of them

                

  • brian writes:
    August 14th, 20111:22 amat

    Reuters, believe it or else!

    zliten boy whos family was murdered by NATO, says all libya is with Gadaffi:

      

  • sentience writes:
    August 14th, 201110:20 amat

    far be it from me to defend the imf and the washington consensus. the country’s gone from one of the wealthiest in africa when he took over to one of the poorest. that’s his record, not attributable to anyone else.

      

    • brian writes:
      August 14th, 201110:56 amat

      so why are u defending the IMF and the washington consensus!
      your knowledge of Zimbabwe and Mugabe is as bad as your knowledge of Libya and Gadaffi…i suggest you do a bit of investigation and stop trying to prove how white men hate african leaders and seek to demonise them…Go back and repair the holes in your own countries fabric

        

  • brian writes:
    August 14th, 201110:35 amat

    http://lizziesliberation.wordpress.com/2011/08/14/honorable-minister-louis-farrakhans-historic-speech-to-harlem-in-support-of-his-brother-muammar-gaddafi-and-his-people/

    a great speech: discusses gadafi no dictator but a leader of a revolution (the insurgents are counterrevolutionaries), etc

      

  • brian writes:
    August 14th, 201110:48 amat

    cachu @cachu
    by 1D4TW
    RT @SisterShareefah: Gadaffi set 70 billion dollars aside for an African Independent bank at no interest to its borrowers. #Libya
    5 hours ago

    cachu @cachu
    by 1D4TW
    RT @Quoriana: Farrakhan: Every Libyan benefits in the profits of oil; who here has got anything from Shell or any other oil company? #Libya
    5 hours ago

      

  • Nick writes:
    August 14th, 20119:08 pmat

    brian writes:” yes debate is meaningless as we have no audience to persuade with our views “.

    That is a pity really. I think it would be a good thing if this sort of blog was seen by a wider audience and there was some sort of robust dialogue about the issues raised here, without the personal attacks and silly “LOL”style of responding.

    As much as I disagree with Syd, he is an excellent writer, no argument about that.

    And only an Englishman could use the term “unpleasant silliness”.

    It is one of the many things I find quite endearing about a culture that in many ways is still very dominant and is so much despised by most contributors on this blog.

    It made me chuckle and put me in a mild mood for the rest of the day ..

    Yes, let’s not have any unpleasantness…

      

  • brian writes:
    August 15th, 201112:16 amat
    • Nick writes:
      August 15th, 20113:22 pmat

      brian writes:” its the white men who are running these wars against arabs and africans”

      How about arabs waging war against black men ? Arabs killing other Arabs ? Africans killing Africans ?

      There seems to be a bit of that around lately.

      Doesn’t bother you ?

        

      • brian writes:
        August 15th, 20116:26 pmat

        to black africans, arabs are white: thats the racial policy youve been supporting in your support for the insurgency….doesnt bother you?

        most arabs(Barring the racists) seem to be supporting Gadaffi…whereas their leaders like leader almost everywhere support the white arab insurgency.

          

        • Nick writes:
          August 16th, 20119:24 amat

          brian writes: “to black africans, arabs are white”

          ?????

          brian writes:”thats the racial policy youve been supporting”

          I have ? You just made that up.

          brian writes:” their leaders like leader almost everywhere support the white arab insurgency ”

          i think you are losing it, Brian. Maybe you are still rattled by Iran’s lack of support for your cause ?

          What are WHITE Arabs exactly ? The Arab league consists of 280 million people.

            

          • brian writes:
            August 16th, 201111:23 pmat

            youre rattled by NATOs support for YOUR cause! doesnt exactly lend it much humanitarian credibility.

              

            • Nick writes:
              August 17th, 20117:23 amat

              Obviously it is easier to come with unfounded accusations rather than addressing the issues I raise.

              I don’t get any joy out of the suffering, death or injury of any human being no matter on which side of a conflict they are.

              I haven’t heard you express any concern about the fate of those who are opposing Gadaffi, even though most of those who are killed or injured on the “rebels’” side are innocent civilians, as is the case in most armed conflicts.

              brian writes:”most arabs seem to be supporting Gadaffi…”

              Except for Saudia Arabia, UAE, Jordan, Morocco…

                


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