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Lenore Taylor: winner, 2010 Hasbara ‘Turd of Oz’ Award
December 27th, 2010 by Syd Walker

2010 isn’t over yet and on this website at least, the awards keep rolling.

Today we announce the winner of Australia’s premier annual award for shameless hasbara.

For those who don’t know, Hasbara is an artform in which many Australian journalists excel.

Wikipedia defines the phenomenon as follows:

Public diplomacy in Israel (also hasbara) refers to public relations efforts to disseminate information about Israel. The term is used by Israel and its supporters to describe efforts to explain government policies and promote Israel in the face of what they consider negative press about Israel around the world. Others view hasbara as a euphemism for propaganda.

Hasbara is often defind in much less flattering terms. Some folk are rude about it on a regular basis.

Hasbara lexicon

Hasbara. It starts with some basic principles...

Hasbara is certainly not just a new fad. It’s been going on for many decades. Unlike PR conducted by most nation-states on earth – usually designed to attract tourists – pro-Israeli (and pro-Jewish) PR is intensly partisan, political and ideological. It infuses the Australian mass media, streaming though media coverage of foreign and domestic affairs like blood corpuscles along an artery.

Australia isn’t the only place this happens of course. Hasbara in the USA is perhaps even more extreme – although resistance to it there is also stronger.

By global standards Australian hasbara has been remarkably successful. It has helped facilitate what must now be one of the most cravenly pro-Israel legislatures on the face of the earth, along with a national government that hooks up with very strange company indeed in the UN General Assembly to defend Israel’s most outrageous misbehaviour.

How on earth did they pull it off? Why is it strategists in Mossad’s Herzliya headquarters can colour Australia deep blue on the map and head for the beach – confident they can count on our unwavering support even though they deal Australia recurrent insults such as passport theft (a murderous racket that’s been going on for at least 30 years).

Part of the answer – a large part – is the Ozzie mass media. Australia’s media is grossly biased towards Israel and sympathetic to the organised Jewish lobby. This is push, not pull. Extreme pro-Israel bias is not a true reflection of public opinion. Opinion polls show that despite incessant hasbara, the public is far less sympathetic to Israel than the mainstream media – and more supportive of the cause of Palestinians.

If the Australian media’s biased pro-Israel coverage is sustained and even increased, there’s a chance public disquiet over the pro-Israel bias of our two major political parties will not explode. Presumably that would be an acceptable result to the Israelis? It’s hard to think they could ask for much more from the Australian Government… except, maybe, for US Congress-style cash grants plus an unlimited supply of Aussie passports? :-)

Last year I covered the politicians and other shysters who, as guests of the ‘Australia-Israel Leadership Forum’, trooped off on pilgrimage to the worse-than-Apartheid State of Israel .

In the spirit of Geoffrey Chaucer, who enjoyed a little vulgarity when chronicling the pilgrimages of his era in medieval England, I called the lot of them suckholes.

I was re-using Mark Latham’s memorable phrase and applying it to this distinctive, media-sanctioned form of sectarian sycophancy. I noted Julia Gillard (then Deputy Prime Minister) was on the bus – and expressed disappointment she’d chose to taint her reputation by toadying to the Zionist State at a time when more and more progressives worldwide are demanding boycott, divestment and sanctions. I also mentioned the delegation’s apparent lack of enthusiasm for visiting Palestinians to round out their Magical Hasbara Tour experience.

Two weeks ago, the Australia-Israel Leadership Forum was back in Israel again for the 2010 pilgrimage of suckholes, with a new crop of politicians from the major parties (along with some recidivists), businessfolk and a larger-than-before contingent of Australian journalists.

Judging by the output I’ve seen so far, putting more journalists on the bus was a smart investment. If they hadn’t seen the Zionist light before, they sure got it this time. Australia now has even more well-tutored pro-Israel propagandists. As though we didn’t already have enough…

Today I caught up with Lenore Taylor’s December 18th article in the Sydney Morning Herald: Decision time looms as Iran races for the bomb.

It’s so shitful I decided to award it the prestigious Hasbara Turd of Oz Award for 2010.

This may come as a disappointment to the likes of Greg Sheridan of ‘No Way to Treat a Precious Friend‘ fame, Andrew Bolt, the producers of all the ABC’s main current affairs programs – and many others in the Australian media who’ve laboured hard throughout the year to present one-sided pro-Israel bias in the most trying circumstances. After all, would you care to defend the shooting of members of an unarmed aid convoy in international waters? It’s tough, really tough – but they managed it!

USS Liberty

The USS Liberty after an 'Israeli welcome': with 34 dead, 174 wounded this was the most deadly assault on US naval personel since World War Two; it has been almost totally unreported by Australia's mass media

Lenore leads the field this year, in part, because she still has a tad more credibility than better-known hasbara hacks. Importantly, so does Fairfax, the media organisation that currently employs her.

If there’s one place in the Australian mainstream media where you may – every blue moon – stumble across something resembling unbiased coverage of the middle east, it’s in Fairfax broadsheet newspapers such as the Sydney Morning Herald and Melbourne Age.

For instance, those are the newspapers that published Tim Fisher’s 40th anniversary article about the 1967 Israeli attack on the USS Liberty: Six days of war, 40 years of secrecy. It remains, as far as I’m aware, the only time an article on this topic has ever appeared in a major Australian newspaper. You’d think Ozzie journalists might be more concerned when our staunch American ally is attacked in international waters by Israeli fighter planes and torpedoes. You’d think we wouldn’t like to see our mates bombed with napalm. But it obviously depends who’s doing the attacking…

Lenore’s coming out as a Zionist cyclops may therefore help plug a hole in the hasbara dyke. She’s working to make sure the Sydney intelligensia are just as terrified about the ‘Iranian threat’ as folk who buy tabloids. She portrays the demented paranoia of the Israeli Government as though it’s normal – to people who’d choke on their cappuccinos if they thought too much about what they’re reading. She ignores the anti-Zionist perspective as though it doesn’t exist. All this… and Ms Taylor would still not look out of place in a trendy coffee shop on Glebe Point Road.

Her nonsense starts with the headline: Decision time looms as Iran races for the bomb

Lenore Taylor

Lenore Taylor: 'insider', suckhole & hasbara groupie

Unless Taylor overdosed on Kool-Aid while visiting the once-was-holy land, she must surely know the Iranian Government has clearly and repeatedly stated it does not have a current nuclear weapons program. Furthermore, no hard evidence has ever been forthcoming to the contrary (that’s despite constant attempts to find it; insinuation is constant and fake evidence has been reported from time to time – but none of it stuck).

Lenore might recall similar claims made by very similar people about Iraq’s alleged WMD program in the lead up to the US-led 2003 invasion. We now know those claims were totally false. But she thoughfully leaves out detail such as that, treating Israeli allegations about nations on their hit-list as facts to be taken at face value.

That’s Hasbara, Lenore – award-winning Hasbara!

True, the headline may not be the journalist’s choice. So let’s move the text, which is presumably her work entirely.

Almost every sentence invites red ink, but here’s a beauty:

Our guide, a former brigadier general who commanded troops in the north during the war with Lebanon in 2006, said that when the Iranian-backed Hezbollah operated freely in the area before the war it was as if Iran itself had been sitting right on Israel’s northern border.

How delicate of her not to mention some bits missing from the brigadier’s alarming history lesson. She might have noted, for instance, that Hezbollah came into existence only as a result of the 1980s Israeli invasion and occupation of Lebanon. Hezbollah is not an Iranian proxy army, what IDF PR-men say; it’s an authentic, home-grown Lebanese resistance movement. It would never have existed had it not been for Israel’s persistent, intrusive and violent meddling in the affairs of its hapless northern neighbour. But why should Lenore bother her readers about that? Her tour guides would disapprove.

Much of her disgraceful article is about the stalled ‘peace process’ (which, as many wits observe, continues to be ‘all process, no peace’). Given the Netanyahu Government’s rather rude rejection of compromise proposals tentatively advanced by the Zionist-dominated Obama Administration, one might think Israeli intransigence would feature in Ms Taylor’s account. After all, even the staunchly Zionist and Jewish-owned New York Times has recently raised eyebrows over the blunt rejectionism of the current Israeli Government.

But no, that’s for pinkos, softies and the feint-hearted. Lenore isn’t doing balance in this article. She’s doing hasbara. Israeli spin-doctors, she tells us, have found someone new to blame for the failure of the faux Israel-Palestine ‘peace process. They don’t blame the Palestinians any more. They’ve found an even scapegoat – Iran!

Iran, she tells us, is just about everyone’s no 1 worry. She cites Wikileaks report that the Saudi King (allegedly) wants Iran blatted (yes Lenore, we had heard that bit of harbara before; no need to get repetitive). She further informs us that although Australia’s Foreign Minister Kevin Rudd has some ideas about inspections for Israeli nuclear facilties, he soon dropped the topic and joined everyone else in the ‘overriding message’ that Iran is the ”core strategic challenge faced by us all”.

Taylor reports that that Mike Kelly MP, who represents the bell-weather seat of Eden-Monaro along with Zionist interests in the Federal Parliament, wants even stronger sanctions on Iran than the super-strength sanctions it’s already imposed. But she warns no-one really thinks that’s going to be sufficient. No-one on the bus, that is.

One gets the impression everyone on the bus thinks pretty much the same about everything. But no one asks why the Emperor has no clothes.

No-one seems to question, for example, why so many leading business people come on these annual love-fests in Israel – or why so many top politicians in Australia regularly attend Australia-Israel Chamber of Commerce meetings back in Australia.

After all, total annual exports from Australia to Israel in 2009-10 were well under $300 million, with merchandise exports a paltry $176 million (that’s 0.1% share of total merchandise exports, ranking Israel Australia’s 49th most important export market – and declining rapidly!). All Australian commodities exports to Israel put together barely topped $100 million in the year. If Australian politicians, businesspeople and journalists ever invested equivalent effort into strengthening bonds of friendship with the other 99.9% of our export markets, just think what the returns might be!

Come to think of it, a new export push could kick-off in the huge, fast-growing and untapped Iranian market…

Here’s how Ms Taylor’s war-rationalising disquisition concludes:

“…most thought that at the very least sanctions have to be combined with the credible threat of a military strike to be effective.

“In fact, many senior figures argued that the only way to force Iran to halt the development of nuclear weapons was to convince the regime that the West had the stomach to launch a military strike.

“The questions are even tougher than those that have dogged the Arab-Israeli peace process for years, and there is far less time to find an answer.”

- Lenore Taylor travelled to Israel as a guest of the Australia Israel Leadership Forum.

A Golden Turd

Lenore Taylor's Golden 'Turd of Oz' Award

What? There’s less time than the ‘peace process’ has taken, Lenore? Not too urgent then? We must still have a decade or two!

But in all seriousness, this war-spruiking isn’t a laughing matter.

If, heaven forbid, the Israel Lobby gets its way and starts a hot war against Iran in the coming months or years (rationalised one presumes by yet another Zionist false-flag operation, causing worldwide economic dislocation and pain – and in the worst case triggering World War Three) then one-eyed hasbara groupies like Lenore Taylor will bear a significant share of the responsibility.

They have an alternative. They could say no.

Please take your Golden Turd Lenore. Position it where the sun doesn’t shine. Then do sit down.

You deserve it. You earnt it. You own it.



27 Responses  
  • MERC writes:
    December 28th, 20107:55 amat

    Er, Syd, shouldn’t that have been the Useful Fool’s Gold(en) ‘Turd of Oz’ Award?

      

    • Syd Walker writes:
      December 28th, 20108:25 amat

      Hi MERC.

      Is Lenore Taylor a ‘useful fool’? Is she doing hasbara? How about both?

      I have no idea if Lenore really is a fool, but doubt it somehow. A bit too clever for that, IMHO. Not wise, but clever.

      Hasbara? Well, she certainly did hasbara in this article – don’t you think?

      Perhaps your query is related to why she she does it? I’m damned if I know, actually.

      Self-interested, career-oriented conformism is my best guess. Why else would all these supposedly intelligent people decide never to talk about no-go topics that undermine the whole paradigm they push (topics such as the USS Liberty, WTC-7 etc). Surely they can’t all be closet Talmudists?

      Perhaps she could tell us?

        

  • MERC writes:
    December 28th, 20102:25 pmat

    Yes, where does fool leave off and hasbara begin? I know Taylor works for Fairfax, but I think this snippet from Bruce Dover’s book, Rupert’s Adventures in China: How Murdoch Lost a Fortune & Found a Wife, has general application: “The thing about Murdoch is that he very rarely issued directives or instructions to his senior executives or editors. Instead, by way of discussion he would make known his personal viewpoint on a certain matter. What was expected in return, at least from those seeking tenure of any length in the Murdoch Empire, was a sort of ‘anticipatory compliance’. One didn’t need to be instructed about what to do, one simply knew what was in one’s long term interests.” And in the eternal battle between self-interest and principle, sadly, you can bet on self-interest every time. It seems we’ve reached a point where, on Palestine/Israel at least, even the slightest hint of scepticism or raised eyebrow re Israeli hasbara by a ms journalist can mean career death or stagnation. The hounding of Fairfax’s former ME correspondent, the excellent Ed O’Loughlin, and his eventual replacement by Jason Koutsoukis is a case in point. A convo with Ed, last heard of writing novels in his native Ireland, would be of great interest. Having said that, I also wonder if we don’t at times overestimate the intelligence of people like Taylor.

      

    • Syd Walker writes:
      December 28th, 20103:59 pmat

      Very interesting MERC.

      “One didn’t need to be instructed about what to do, one simply knew what was in one’s long term interests.”

      I agree that’s mainly how the system works. Direct instructions that could be ‘leaked’ or cause revolt are clumsy. Opportunistic self-censorship – en bloc – is much more effective.

      “It seems we’ve reached a point where, on Palestine/Israel at least, even the slightest hint of scepticism or raised eyebrow re Israeli hasbara by a ms journalist can mean career death or stagnation.”

      I HOPE we shall look back and see these times more as a positive turning-point. You’re describing a process of top-down whittling away of resistance to Zionism (even of ‘neutrality’). That’s been underway a long time. What’s newer, I think, is the emergence of coherent, progressive-based opposition to this ideological tyranny. It doesn’t yet have access to the meainstream media editorials, but its almost always nipping at the ankles in comments when/if published. It’s certainly alive and growing in the blogosphere. It’s on Twitter. The word is getting around.

      In early 2008 I began blogging about internet censorship as a contribution to the campaign against the Rudd Government’s plans to leghislate for a ‘mandatory filter’. I suggested the key drivers of censorship were not the ‘Christian Lobby’, as generally claimed, but forces more closely aligned with the Zionist Lobby – along with intelligence agencies within the state apparatus.

      I recall the general reaction at the time was not favourable. Most people opposed to censorship found that very far fetched. Fast forward three years… I don’t think most folk now who oppose censorship would be surprised by those arguments. They might not agree, but some have come round to that way of thinking. In general, such ideas now get a much fairer hearing in the community.

      People are waking up in much greater numbers to the fact they’ve been systematically lied to for decades. They are still not clear on exactly who, how and why. But who is? They can tell there’s more going on than the surface view they get via the mass media.

      Are writers like Lenore Taylor ‘intelligent’? Surely the answer must be yes. The ability to write and debate as she does is not shared by most people in this society. Are journalists of her ilk aware they’re telling dreadful, war-justifying lies? Do they really believe the stuff they come out with? Personally I find it hard to imagine that – but I don’t know. However, I there must some some honest journalists left in paid employment? We need to work on and with them.

      One final comment. It probably suits Zionists quite well when we publicise the demise and humiliation of journalists, politicians etc who stand up for their principles against the Zionist flow. Undoutably that does happen, and it’s worse than a shame when it does. But does it happen all the time? I think not. Former MP Julia Irwin was hassled and marginalised for supporting justice for Palestine. But she left Parliament at the time of her own choosing. Many journalists spoke out in harsh language about the attack on Gaza in 2009. I don’t think it was the kiss of death to their careers in most cases.

      Liberty in general is not given. In a curious way, it can’t be given. It must be taken. The great mass of people – which includes journalists – need to taste their own power to speak out freely on this most ‘sensitive’ of issues. They’ve pursuaded themselves it’s ‘not possible’ or ‘the kiss of career death’. But it wouldn’t take much to turn the tables.

      For instance, as you know I’m fond of pursuing the issue of 9-11. IMO, there’s a most obvious need to re-open the case; investigation investigations so far have been a farce. If any single prominent journalist in the Australian media said that, he/she probably cop a lot of flac (along with plenty of public support). And yes, that brave loner might get fired.

      But if half a dozen prominent journalists co-signed such a statement it would be much harder to pick them off. If a dozen signed… I don’t think it would be possible to axe them without putting media control under the public spotlight in a way that would not serve the interests of the cover-up.

      We need to talk up the opportunities we all have to cut through the mist of conformist lies and incessant hasbara. Such opportunities do exist – and we shouldn’t feed our own fear to the point we discourage ourselves and others from taking action.

      End of sermon :-)

        

  • MERC writes:
    December 28th, 20105:44 pmat

    In general, I agree with the contents of your ‘sermon’, but to return to the subject of Taylor’s assumed ‘intelligence’, it seems to me that we need to sort out what we mean by the ‘i’ word. I’ve always thought of the Palestine/Israel issue as an ideal sorter of sheep from goats. Now maybe I’m wrong – as in overly optimistic – but I’ve always operated on the basis that any half-way mature adult with half a brain (I omit Zionists of all stripes here, of course, as ideologically tainted), without necessarily doing any real homework on the issue, can still understand the underlying hammer/anvil dynamic at work, accept that it’s clearly the Palestinians who are the one’s being hammered, and sympathise with them accordingly. That basic understanding of the issue, to me, suggests at least the beginnings of a capacity for critical thought, a pre-requisite, if you like, for assuming that someone has intelligence. Taylor fails that.

    To look at it from another perspective, I’ve always been naive enough to believe that a journalist or a politician(as opposed, say, to the man in the street) who hasn’t made the effort to read critically on a subject should have the humility to confess his/her lack of expertise on it rather than parade his ignorance on the public stage. For Taylor to accept a trip to Israel, with a view to writing about it, without first bothering to inform herself, and then to merely regurgitate what she’s been fed there, seems to me dumb in the extreme.

      

    • Syd Walker writes:
      December 28th, 20106:33 pmat

      Well, if she’s ‘dumb’ it’s a very articulate variant of ‘dumb’.

      Isn’t it really just a manifestation of the age-old ‘gun for hire’ syndrome? Lenore is presumably not one to make her mark by standing out against mainstream verities, or she’d have done it by now. She’s been in the Canberra press gallery since the early 1990s if I recall correctly. That’s a LONG time in politics.

      Once I heard she was on the hasbara bus, I assumed she’d fulfil her patrons’ expectations and craft at least a few articles that did the right thing by them – and actual or potential domestic paymasters. That’s how I read the featured article.

      What puzzles me is whether she really believes what she writes on such occasions. I have the same question about the other mainstream journalists who (wittingly or not) churn out Zionist bias. Do they really believe it? Or do they know it’s an immoral scam that just happens to put jam on their bread and butter – but they are cynical opportunists and don’t care?

      Oddly enough, I’m not entirely sure which I find more scary. Deliberate dishonesty, of course, is despicable and dangerous. But at least it suggests some degree of intellectual connectedness with the real world, even if it’s callous in motivation.

      Well-nigh intractable stupidity – combined with the cleverness to achieve high position – is in some ways more frightening. If someone like Lenore could write her article, believe what she’s written AND believe it’s ‘fair and balanced’ – then severe intellectual confusion is eroding the very core of our civilisation. Lunatics running the asylum…

      I suppose what I’m getting it is the old bad v mad quandry. Which is worse? Which is more dangerous? Which is more redeemable? And from the point of view of outsiders looking in… which is really more feasible?

      What IS going on with what was once known as the intelligensia?

        

  • Mark writes:
    December 30th, 201010:28 amat

    It speaks volumes about Lenore Taylor’s character, or lack thereof.

      

  • CLEM writes:
    January 17th, 20117:25 pmat

    Syd, I live near you,and am aware of your politics,you and your allies are sickening,(Golden turd award).Iwas not aware of your anti semetic attitude.You and your mates conviently ignore the rockets going over the borders of palestine and lebanon and blame the israelites for retaliating. Likewise the people killed attacking armed soldiers and clearly bashing a downed soldier??

      

    • Syd Walker writes:
      January 17th, 201111:30 pmat

      Hi Clem. The term is spelt ‘Semitic’, not ‘Semetic’. Do you know what it means? It refers to the language group Semitic languages. Hebrew is one such language. So is Arabic.

      IMHO, ‘anti-Semitism’ is an inherently meaningless term used as a weapon by the Zionist lobby to demonize folk they don’t like. Cleverly, they have got most people using this meaningless expression – but they, needless to say, reserve the right to decide who actually ‘is’ anti-Semitic.

      I totally reject the assertion that I am ‘anti-Semitic’, partly because the term is meaningless – but I also reject the imputation that I’m xenophobic. I can’t stop people throwing nasty accusations such as that around, but I can refuse to accept their labelling, And I do.

      i intend to write at greater length on the subject of ‘anti-Semitism’ in due course. There’s already a lot of good material on the subject out there already. Here’s one of my favourites:

      On Anti-Semitism by Gilad Atzmon (2003)

        

      • CLEM writes:
        January 19th, 201110:59 amat

        Syd you pompous fool, correcting my spelling,how condecending of you? Whilst anti-semitism may be meaningless to you i am sure most people would agree it translates as anti-jewish not anti-arab

          

        • Syd Walker writes:
          January 19th, 201111:50 amat

          Just a tad more well-meant advice Clem. I suggest you capitalise the word ‘Semitism’. That’s preferred contemporary usage. Same with the word ‘Jewish’. It really should be capitalised. It’s fine to write ‘gentile’ however. :-)

          I can tell you come from the far north of the Altered State of Queensland, because you write “how condecending of you?”. That’s how a north Queenslander speaks. Voice rising to the end of the sentence so most people might think we only ask questions. Sounds like home to me :-)

          Now, you say “whilst anti-semitism may be meaningless to you i am sure most people would agree it translates as anti-jewish not anti-arab”.

          Two points here. First, I have no doubt you are correct that ‘most people’ embrace the meaning you suggest. Most of them have probably never thought much about its etymology and precise definition.

          Second, I am not ‘most people’, I reserve the right to differ from ‘most people’ if my conscience so dictates.

          On this small but significant point, I do choose to differ. I won’t use the term ‘anti-Semitism’ except within inverted commas unless I’m quoting someone else’s text. That’s to indicate that I regard it as a ‘trick term’. It’s inherently undefinable given its etymology. But there is no ‘fair play’ in its contemporary usage. The people with (self-appointed) ultimate power to ‘determine’ whether or not any given person, action or statement is ‘anti-Semitic’ are the leaders of the organised Jewish community.

          Under normal circumstances, it matters little if a subset within our global society develop their own lexicon. The difficulty comes when if/when such a group tries to impose their lexicon and its implications on society as a whole. This is one such case. ‘Anti-Semitism’ is now combatted by a significant budget in the US Government. An accusation of ‘anti-Semitism’ that sticks can ruin careers or worse in some locations/jurisdictions. It therefore matters rather a lot in practical terms.

          Jimmy Carter and Bishop Desmond Tutu have been accused of it. A fair proportion of the leading intellects in western civilisation – from Shakespeare to Voltaire are now often accused of it. But instead of joining in an already over-hyped debate about each of these cases and whether it is true, I prefer to ask the question whether the debate itself is anything but a sly trick. My conclusion is that it is not.

          If you want to accuse me of being ‘anti-Jewish’, why not use that term? At least it means something more or less easy to understand and define – and does not lend further weight to the inherent unfairness of a term custom-designed to favour sectarian power.

          If you haven’t read it, I encourage you to take a look at my recent article about ‘Race’ and ‘Racism’. They are two more terms I don’t use, because they are inherently undefinable and based on meaningless, erroneous and outdated ideas.

          So, if you assert I am ‘anti-Jewish’, I can assure you that I am not ‘anti-Jewish’ in a ‘racist’ sense, as the term and concept of ‘race’ is not a belief of mine. I don’t believe ‘races’ exist’. It’s a 19th century misunderstanding.

          In what other senses might I be ‘anti-Jewish’? You tell me if you believe it to be true and it bothers you. By all means tell me why such specific statements as you choose to nominate are illegitimate or inappropriate. Be my guest. Please use specific references so I have a chance to defend myself (an old fashioned idea I do appreciate, but I’ll stick with it).

            

          • CLEM writes:
            January 19th, 20119:17 pmat

            syd yes i was born in these mountains where you choose to abide. proof of your anti-jewish stance is in your original reply to my first post wherein you engage in semantics and spelling corrections,at the same time ignoring the rockets fired across the borders of palestine and lebanon,also it was not the jews who strapped bombs to themselves with the deliberate intention of murdering women and children it was your anti-zionist mates!!

              

            • Syd Walker writes:
              January 20th, 20117:55 amat

              What you just called ‘proof’ is nothing of the kind and if you are going to continue to make inaccurate and ill-considered slurs I shaln’t bother to reply and reserve the right to delete your future comments. I’m interested in constructive dialogue with people of different views; I didn’t set this website up just so intellectually-lazy conformists can indulge in scolding and personal abuse. There are plenty of place for that already.

              Your obsession with Palestinian rockets is indicative of deep Zionist-bias. This was the way the world was sold the gruesome attack on Gaza in 2008/9. It ignored the fact that Palestinian causalities from a range of Israeli weaponry were then – and continue to be – far more lethal on a regular basis than anything some of the Palestinians throw back in desperation. Please stop treating Palestinian lives as though they don’t matter. They do.

                

  • CLEM writes:
    January 20th, 201111:13 pmat

    syd,I don`t really care what you think of my opinions and as far as I am concerned you are a conceited fool full of your own importance.I seem to recall you and Isaccs,horseface,zehtner,and a few other assorted blowin greenies were responsible for the cancellation of major (500 mill.)Infrastructure by the labor party,as if they needed any encouragement not to spend money outside the south east,and to suckhole the green preferences? so I conclude by your prissy reply to my last post this is goodbye

      

  • CLEM writes:
    January 21st, 201110:16 amat

    Syd, what happened,you did not delete my last post however you threaten not to reply to my posts. So much for your belief in freedom of speech,I can now add the slur of Hypocrite to your resume,Syd take your bat and ball and go HOME.!!

      

    • Syd Walker writes:
      January 22nd, 201111:23 amat

      Clem, your latest comment is so idiotic I’ll just let it speak for itself.

        

  • CLEM writes:
    January 24th, 201111:29 amat

    syd,your lack of response says more about YOU than it does about me and I will let it speak for itself.

      

  • David Macilwain writes:
    April 14th, 201110:56 pmat

    Very interested to read this debate between you and merc, syd, even if four months late. But more interesting for that, as it was only a couple of weeks ago that I finally saw Leonore on Insiders and heard her comments on the Marrickville business, albeit dwarfed by Bolts reference to 1933 germany. When I heard she was going on the suckholy land tour I was disappointed, having respected her viewpoint till then. And I now have difficulty believing in the capacity of the human psyche to compartmentalise – to have sympathy for Palestinian human rights and yet to actually believe the words of one of the IDF’s butchers.
    But what I find most disturbing is what has just happened with the media over BDS. I have tried in vain to get the Age to publish a letter speaking against Israel, most recently when they published a piece on Saturday by Jonathan Freedland on Goldstone and Gaza, unaccompanied by the editorial that went with it in the Guardian two days earlier. I thought this was really clever hasbara, but then on tuesday the SMH published an article by Peter Hartcher, quoted as the Age ‘International affairs editor’. This could explain why they won’t publish anything critical of Israel. Amongst other furphies it talked without irony of “Hamas raining missiles down on Israel”. Hard not to envisage those showers of WP raining on Gaza city,didn’t Israel have an Operation Summer Rain.
    I’ll also add here that I have been pursuing the ABC for weeks on the “link between Hamas and Iran”, referred to by Ben Knight – and in response received some links to illustrate the connection from Kieran Doyle. When I thought to actually look at what he sent, I discovered that one was from the BBC in February 2006, just after Israel and the US had withdrawn support from the Hamas government of the PA – Iran had offered to help out with money, and also had some nice words for the US commitment to democracy. I spelt this all out to Doyle and he said ‘your comments have been noted’, but of course Iran does help Hamas and wants to wipe Israel off the map ——.
    I begin to despair – seems as though the whole prospect of change and Arab self determination could fall foul to the Imperial Project, and we in Australia have almost zero chance of doing anything about it. But in the meantime I continue writing and complaining to the Age and the ABC; somehow one feels that the truth sooner or later MUST prevail.

      

    • Syd Walker writes:
      April 15th, 20114:19 pmat

      Thanks David. Interesting comment.

      While you find trying to get through to these professional liars frustrating – as would any reasonable person – your account of the attempt raises spirits.

      It helps us realize we’re not the only ones trying.

      I also get regular inspiration from Roger Waters: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnMMHepfYVc

      This latest reactionary media frenzy in Australia over the Greens and BDS campaign is certainly threatening to both causes. But it’s also an opportunity. Public interest in the issue of Palestine is inevitably raised by all this kerfuffle. We can use the opportunity to communicate crucial truths that typically get completely overlooked by the mainstream culture.

        

      • David Macilwain writes:
        April 15th, 20119:45 pmat

        and thanks for that link Syd. It can seem like one is on one’s own in this, when all the public space is filled with variations on the same distorted message, so I agree – knowing we are in it together is a great help. My main link has been through AFP in Melbourne, who are terrific in finding articles that present the many shades of the real story rather than the single black of the lies. And then of course there is the wider world of the ME and the West’s relationship with it; a good example came today, when in the context of an interview with Mamdoub Habib, it emerged that the so called Vice President of Egypt, Omar Suleiman, who was Israel and the CIA’s chief ally, is apparently still there! Since Mubarak went, now two months ago, I’ve been asking where did Omar Suleiman go? ANd NOT A SQUEAK. I even wonder if there has been some kind of suppression order on all the Western press, though I have not heard of him on the Arabic News either. And yet this was the man that America keyed up to be Egypt’s new President, or chief of government, before the people rebelled, someone Clinton and Gates could work with, and of course Mossad, with whom he had a long relationship.
        But I digress! I think your point about BDS consciousness raising is right – there hasn’t been much substance in the vilification so far – just waving the Star of David – so there is room to remind people of the issues which have concerned them in the recent past, like identity theft and piracy, and of course the settlement building and house demolitions. No-one is comfortable with these injustices against the human rights of Palestinians, and in fact is probably guilty about it, so we have to persuade them that they can’t have both a real state for Palestinians with everything that entails, as well as an Israel on the current lines of segregation and imprisonment and Apartheid.
        –good to talk, cheers D.

          

        • Nick writes:
          April 17th, 201110:57 amat

          “David Macilwain writes : It can seem like one is on one’s own in this”.

          David, has it ever occurred to you that many “ordinary” people like myself are also concerned about the plight of the Palestinian people and do support a real state for the Palestinian people, without sharing your (and Syd’s) extreme views on Israel and the “West” ?

          And that, despite the fact that we support justice for the Palestinian people, we don’t necessarily support the likes of Hamas, Hezbollah and other, more extreme orginasations ?

          As for Leoner Taylor, I am sure she is just as shattered by your “disdain” as I am.

            

          • Mark writes:
            April 17th, 201112:51 pmat

            Nick, your feeble attempts to sound fair and reasonable are insultingly phoney.

            We can see through you. You’ve been outed, remember? Your routine is becoming stale and boring, not to mention painfully predictable.

            Don’t take cheap shots at constructive contributors like David you hasbara pissant.

              

            • Nick writes:
              April 18th, 20117:31 amat

              Mark writes: “We can see through you.”

              Who is “we”, Mark ?

              The little band of insiders with supreme knowledge about what is really going on the world ? Those with a monopoly on compassion and the only ones who know what is best for the Palestinian people.

              Maybe you should go over there. You wouldn’t last 5 minutes. If you weren’t laughed out of town, you’d probably be kidnapped and beheaded by one of the nice little fringe groups who, like you, don’t want peace at any price.

              You remind me of those arrogant, tiresome Trotskyists/Leninists of the 70′s, who were of course totally discredited by the course of history. As you and your “ilk” will be.

              And your little Hasbara slogan is not only stale and boring, it is an outright lie. But telling the truth has never been your forte.

              You’re not still using a PC with Israeli made chips in it, are you. Or driving a car with Israeli parts in it ?

              This blog is obviously only for people who toe the line that all evil in the world can be blamed on Israel and the “Zionist conspiracy”.

              So dream on boys. History will eventually “out” you for the frauds that you are.

                

            • Nick writes:
              April 18th, 20119:06 amat

              The JMCC was established in 1988 by a group of Palestinian journalists and researchers seeking to disseminate information on events in the West Bank (including East Jerusalem) and the Gaza Strip. ??It was the first Palestinian organization to conduct regular opinion polls of Palestinian political attitudes, and these surveys have served as a critical benchmark on the health of the peace process for nearly two decades.

              http://www.jmcc.org/etemplate.aspx?id=27

              Polls show majorities of Israelis and Palestinians favor a two-state solution but are at odds over what each would give up.
              A poll in December by Israeli and Palestinian researchers found the following numbers saw the best solution to conflict was:

              TWO STATES: Israelis 73 pct; Palestinians 64 pct

              Poll No. 73, April 2011 – Governance and reconciliation

              Summary: The public opinion poll conducted by Jerusalem Media & Communication Center (JMCC) showed an increase in the ratio of Palestinians who oppose military operations as an appropriate response under the current political conditions from 38.1% in January 2009 to 51.8% this April. Accordingly, the ratio of Palestinians who support military operations decreased from 53.3% in January 2009 to 37.1% in April 2011.

              With regards to the rockets fired from Gaza Strip towards Israel, the ratio of Palestinians who believe they are useful in achieving the national goals went down from 50.8% in January 2009 to 25.4% this month while the ratio of Palestinians who believe that these rockets harm the national interests went up from 20.8% in January 2009 to 38.6% this month.

                

        • Nick writes:
          April 26th, 201110:04 amat

          David Macilwain writes:”But what I find most disturbing is what has just happened with the media over BDS. ”

          What I find disturbing is that some people are obviously more equal than others.

          Omar Barghouti is a founding member of the Palestinian Campaign for the Academic and Cultural Boycott of Israel.

          Despite the fact that many universities in the West and the Middle East would have welcomed him with open arms, he chose to study in New York, in the very heart of the land of the Great Satan itself . He then chose to study philosophy in the devil’s lair of Tel Aviv of all places.

          Obviously another one of those :” do as I say, not as I do” preachers.

          Hope you haven’t gone through to much trouble divesting yourself from Israeli manufactured good and services

          I suppose the good councillors of Marrickville can always come up with the excuse that they simply cannot do without their PC’s and Macs with Israeli computer chips.

          Barghouti’s excuse was that there were simply no alternatives available to him. Wonder if he would decline the offer of a well paid position at one of these universities ?

          I am sure he will find a way to justify it. The boycott apparently only applies to the rest of us.

            

          • Syd Walker writes:
            April 28th, 201111:52 pmat

            Nick, for someone who purports to be an interested amateur with little spare time (not enough to do your own blog) and no particular commitment to Israel (you just like to see fair play)…. you sure do persist in scoring every last pro-Israel point you can. You also use the same ‘poor-persecuted-us’ style of the typical Zionist apologist, along with occasional lapses into the ‘aren’t we superior’ sneering style of discourse. I can only conclude that if you truly aren’t a hasbara man, you do a fabulous imitation of one. :-)

              

            • Nick writes:
              April 29th, 20113:23 pmat

              Syd,

              This information is easily available, but the truth obviously hurts.

              I am just pointing out that a lot of the stuff posted on this blog is utter crap.

              It is either badly researched or outright lies and I don’t think you should be allowed to get away with it.

              Your obsession with Hasbaras and Zionist conspiracies is getting quite boring.

              I have opinions about many things and I am not controlled or organised by anyone.

              Try and accept that.

              I have never used a “poor-persecuted us” style of writing. That’s just in YOUR mind. I don’t feel persecuted by anyone.

              And of course you won’t respond to the very valid points I made about the BDS. Why is this man studying in the USA and Israel ? Why not in pro Palestinian Syria ?

              Would these councillors really boycott Israeli products or do they just want to impose it on the rest of us, while they carry on as usual ? For me, it’s not not about Israel. It’s about the bloody hypocrisy of it all.

              You want people to boycott Apple products because the chips are made in Israel.

              Would you urge people to boycott Chinese products because more than 80 workers making Apple products in Chinese factories have committed suicide due to overwork and exploitation. How about the Taiwanese workers who were exposed to dangerous chemicals while making Apple products ?

              But you never respond when you get caught out and neither do your other contributors, except for the pathetic Hasbara accusation.

              A lot of source material is quoted on this blog. When I check it out and come back with additional material from the same source, which basically contradicts some of the nonsense that is being posted here, you suddenly have a problem with it.

              Sorry to prick your balloon yet again…

                


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