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Australia’s Afghanistan debate, 9-11 and Kevin Bracken
October 22nd, 2010 by Syd Walker

How an honest man made the ‘insiders’ prick their own bubble

This week, after avoiding the subject in Parliamentary debate for NINE years thanks to a convenient ‘bipartisan consensus’ comprising the Labor Party and the Liberal/National Coalition, Australia’s national Parliament at long last debated the War in Afghanistan.

Adam Bandt, Greens MP for Melbourne

Adam Bandt, Greens MP for Melbourne

The debate is taking place only because The Greens called for it – and in Australia’s post-election hung Parliament were able to demand it as a condition for keeping the Gillard Labor Government in power. The Greens deserve thanks and praise for insisting on this debate. As it proceeded, a lot more Australians probably gained better understanding about why the duopoly of war-supporting major parties have been so anxious  to avoid open debate about Afghanistan until now.

The Parliamentary debate itself has had its moments, but in general brings to mind Dr Johnson’s famous quip about a dog walking on hind legs: “It is not done well; but you are surprised to find it done at all”.

When Australians use the word ‘war’ in this case, we’re not using the term in a traditional way. Australia hasn’t declared war on Afghanistan. Instead, we have troops stationed in Afghanistan who face a growing home-grown insurgency, which is increasingly challenging the military occupation imposed by the USA and its ‘allies’.

A truly rational Parliament – a Parliament concerned about factual accuracy – might therefore call this a debate about Australia’s ongoing military occupation. Instead of that, politicians and journalists call it ‘war’ – frequently softening the pitch with Orwellian Newspeak, such as Australia’s ‘presence’ in Afghanistan, our ‘commitment’,  ‘engagement’ and ‘involvement’.

It all sounds so romantic…

Since we’re now debating a long-running imposed military occupation, an obvious first question normal people might ask is how it began in the first place? Why and how did Australian troops first get ‘involved’ in the military occupation of Afghanistan?

It’s the question that really lies at the heart of the debate. If we can understand that history we may be able to unravel it. At the very least, it would provide necessary clarity about what caused the mess we find ourselves in.

Andrew Wilkie

Andrew Wilkie: Independent MP for Denison

Unfortunately but not unexpectedly, fostering genuine understanding of the origins of the occupation was most certainly NOT on the Parliamentary agenda this week.

No-one who spoke in the Parliamentary debate has been willing to probe that sordid history critically. Greens member Adam Bandt and Independent Andrew Wilkie spoke with passion against continuing the occupation, but both of them, in their speeches, accepted without question the official version of the events that led to the invasion of Afghanistan by a US-led ‘coalition of the willing’  in 2001.

The Australian Greens have no real excuse for this. Don’t they talk to counterparts in the USA?

After all, the 2008 US Greens Presidential candidate Cynthia MacKinney has been prominent in demanding the truth about 9-11 from very early days (2002). She can be considered one of the US 9-11 Truth movement’s most heroic founder-members. Yet apparently a realistic and honest appraisal of the events of September 11th 2001 hasn’t percolated through into the leadership of the Australian Greens. I really don’t know why. No-one I’ve spoken or corresponded with in the Australian Greens has been willing to discuss the issue.

Anyhow, the week was starting to look like it was going reasonably well for both sides of the War Party, who between them comprise 90+% of the Parliament. It was looking good for the Capital circle Commentariat too, who’ve been doing a poor job sustaining public support for the Afghanistan ‘engagement’ – but who have been exceptionally successful in keeping discussion about the mysterious origins of the Afghanistan invasion out of the mainstream discourse.

Kevin Bracken

Kevin Bracken

Enter Kevin Bracken…

Many Australians outside the State of Victoria may never have heard of Kevin Bracken until this week. Bracken is not in Parliament. He’s a prominent trade unionist – Victorian branch Secretary of the Maritime Workers of Australia and currently the elected President of the Victorian Trades Hall. When he entered public debate this week, Bracken spoke for himself – not the organisations he represents.

Yet it is Mr Bracken’s words – not Prime Minister Gillard or  opposition leader Tony Abbott, nor even the Greens Adam Bandt or Independent MP Andrew Wilkie – that have reverberated around the nation, causing quite a stir in the process. The politicians made widely anticipated set-piece speeches. Bracken shifted the paradigm.

Kevin Bracken is a large man who has evidently learnt the art of speaking on radio with a calm and gentle voice. On Wednesday morning he called Radio 774 ABC in Melbourne and spoke to radio host Jon Faine. Bracken raised doubts about the official version of events concerning 9-11, called for a fresh inquiry and politely offered to debate Mr Faine on the subject.

Jon Faine

Jon Faine

Jon Faine’s on-air response was so arrogant, rude, patronising and dismissive that he may have helped convert a few Melburnians to 9-11 scepticism there and then. But what might easily have been a local storm in a teacup, remembered only by a few local listeners and spotted only by aficionados of 9-11 Truth in Australia, quickly became a national issue. This happened because Australia’s paid Commentariat and political elite broke their own self-imposed rule on the subject of 9-11, a rule that’s served them so well for so long.

For once, they followed up on the story…

Faine’s brief ‘conversation with Mr Bracken – and his subsequent attempt to bully the Secretary of Trades Hall into disowning President Bracken – was posted on the ABC Radio 774 website. But other journalists picked up on the story too. Steve Lieberman of Sydney’s Radio 2UE did a vicious scripted hit-piece, still available online.

Even then the incident might not have amounted to much, but Josh Frydenberg, the newly elected MP for Kooyong, decided to ask his first Parliamentary question on this very subject:

Josh Frydenberg MP

Josh Frydenberg M

“My question is to the Prime Minister. I refer to the comment of Kevin Bracken, President of the Victorian Trades Hall Council and member of the Port Melbourne branch of the Labor Party that, in relation to the terrorist attack on the World Trade Centre on 11 September 2001:

“I believe the official story is a conspiracy theory that does not stand up to scientific scrutiny.”

If the Prime Minister finds these comments as offensive as most right-thinking Australians, what action will the Prime Minister take to discipline Mr Bracken and send a message to others that such remarks are unacceptable?

Prime Minister Julia Gillard responded defensively:

“…obviously, I do not agree with the remarks. Obviously, they are stupid and wrong. I think the member was in the House yesterday when I gave my Prime Minister’s statement on Afghanistan. I would refer him to that. That is my view, obviously. It is the view of the Labor Party. If the member wants to research our policy that goes through our national conferences and other places he will find it outlines our view about the conflict in Afghanistan and why Australia is there. As the member would probably be aware, the Labor Party is a large organisation. People join it as individuals. We do not dictate what people think, and neither does the Liberal Party, in my understanding”

Bracken’s question and the PM’s response immediately became a national story, covered on national radio and TV and widely reported in the newspapers from the afternoon of October 20th onwards. Most of the reporting was highly negative about Mr Bracken and gave great prominence to Julia Gillard’s assertion that his remarks were “stupid and wrong”. Even so, the genie was out of the bottle.

One of the first newspapers to cover the story was the Herald Sun. It’s article Trades Hall president Kevin Bracken stands by his 9/11 conspiracy followed the established pattern of highlighting the dismissive remarks of Gillard and other established political leaders. But unlike other mainstream media articles on this subject, the Sun Herald opened the article to (moderated) comments from the public and also ran an online opinion poll.

Sun Herald Opinion Poll re Kevin Bracken

Sun-Herald Opinion Poll: Kevin Bracken's views on 9-11

Only the Herald itself knows how many comments it received. More than 300 were published on the day the article was initially published (2oth October). By today (22nd October), the total number of published comments is 513 – indicating exceptional public interest. Many comments are well-informed and very supportive of Mr Bracken. The opinion poll which poses the question “Do you think Kevin Bracken’s comments were reasonable?” is currently running 63%-37% in favour.

The Australian public is learning that we are better informed about 9-11 than the mainstream media and political elite purport to be – and certainly far more interested in the truth. That’s a valuable new understanding.

Not content with getting the ball rolling, on the morning of Thursday 21st October Kevin Bracken called Jon Faine’s radio program again (Unionist demands right of reply over 9-11 conspiracy backlash). Reluctantly, Faine took the call. Once again, he attempted to ridicule Mr Bracken. Once again, Bracken kept his cool and calmly reiterated the challenge of a public debate. Faine tried to argue Bracken’s views are extremist and unworthy of debating. Bracken responded that public opinion seemed to be a lot less sure about that. He managed, once again, to come through to listeners as the voice of reason. Score 2 to Kevin Bracken!

Australia’s mass media still maintains a united front about 9-11, insisting there is “nothing to debate”. Even independents such as Crikey.com joined in the ridicule. It’s main hit piece – ‘Village idiot’ union head won’t give up on 9/11 conspiracy – was wisely kept behind its subscriber-only wall, where the rest of us can’t get at it to comment :-)

But a distrustful public is tasting its own ability to see through an orchestrated charade. Comments on Twitter, by my estimate, were running marginally against Bracken and his views yesterday – but debate via social media is doubtless bringing new converts every hour to the simple proposition that the official story about 9-11 is not credible and a new inquiry is necessary.

No wonder Julia Gillard – and her predecessors Kevin Rudd and John Howard – never wanted a public debate about Afghanistan!

It’s worth recalling that when Prime Minister Howard first sent troops to Afghanistan in late 2001, he did so at a time when a Federal election had been called and Government was in caretaker mode.

Magistrate Pat O’Shane said back then that to do so was probably unlawful under the constitution. The main opposition party of the day – the ALP under Kim Beazley – never complained about that abuse of executive power by Howard. It was an instance of the sordid two-party consensus that has prevailed for so much of the last decade on matters surrounding war and ‘national security’. (The consensus did not extend to Labor support for the invasion of Iraq, to the credit of post-Beazley ALP leaders Simon Crean and Mark Latham).

I mention that, because it seems not only was Australia’s participation in the invasion of Afghanistan illegal under international law and a gross abuse of the ANZUS Treaty; it may have been unlawful under the terms of the Australian constitution too. Small wonder there was no major party enthusiasm for Parliamentary debate about Afghanistan at the time!

But the most important issue – and the issue that won’t go away – is whether 9-11 was really perpetrated by ‘Al Qaeda’ as alleged.

If not, the Islamic faith and Muslims throughout the world have been subjected to a modern variant of the ‘Blood Libels’ of yesteryear. Since 9-11, Muslims have been routinely subjected to sniggers, sneers, unpleasant comments about their religion and worse – much worse. Vilification continues through to the present day.

If, in reality, Muslim extremists did not commit the terrorist atrocity of 9-11 (and there are similar doubts surrounding the official versions of the July 7th 2005 London bombings and other key ‘trigger events’), then it is necessary to consider who framed them, how and why.

Mark Regev and Jon Faine

Jon Faine greets Israeli PR supremo Mark Regev: two smiling Melburnians having a pleasant encounter

This week, the two most outspoken critics of Mr Bracken and his views have been Jon Faine and Josh Frydenberg MP. Both happen to be Jewish.

If I was their advisor, I’d suggest they do not henceforth play a prominent role in demanding that views critical of the official 9-11 narrative are excluded from mainstream discourse. Not a good look. It makes it seem rather too much like an ideological war waged by Jews against Muslims. Doubtless that’s not the case – but perceptions matter.

All of us – Jew, Muslim, Christian, Buddhist, Hindu, Shinto, Pagan, Zoroastrian, Secularists and the rest – must share this wonderful planet. We should all treat other’s views with respect and be guided by an honest search for the truth. That’s the only way forward – unless one group of people seriously wish to try lording it over the rest.

Such an agenda would prompt ever-increasing resistance and suffer eventual defeat.

Supremacist ideologies, in whatever form, have no place in humanity’s future.


24 Responses  
  • Matt writes:
    October 22nd, 20104:12 pmat

    Video here:

      

  • brian writes:
    October 22nd, 20105:56 pmat

    jonn faine must be a lonely man, cause Bfracken currently is winnning in the polls by a landslide:

    Thanks for voting!
    Do you think Kevin Bracken’s comments were reasonable?

    * Yes 65.31% (4519 votes)
    * No 34.69% (2400 votes)

    Total votes: 6919
    ===========================
    Faine didnt engage in debate, he used the rhetorical tactic of hurling accusing questions to shame Bracken. Does he know anything about 9-11? Does he know the officil conspiracy theory is by the same guys who invented Iraqs WMDs?!

      

  • brian writes:
    October 22nd, 20106:07 pmat

    ‘If the Prime Minister finds these comments as offensive as most right-thinking Australians, what action will the Prime Minister take to discipline Mr Bracken and send a message to others that such remarks are unacceptable?’

    most right thinking australians agree with Bracken…see my post above.Its so typical of politicians to think their view is the popular one…their so used to think they are representing us to the point they think they do.

      

  • brian writes:
    October 22nd, 20106:19 pmat

    jon faine, frydenberg, and the master blaster Regev, whose mind is on display here:

      

    • Syd Walker writes:
      October 22nd, 201011:09 pmat

      That vid is very nicely done :-)

        

  • brian writes:
    October 22nd, 20107:01 pmat

    ‘Mr Bracken has expressed similar views in the past. In 2006 he told The Australian newspaper that the attacks were only effective because the American government was in some way involved. ‘

    http://www.sott.net/articles/show/216731-Australian-Trade-Union-President-Claims-9-11-Was-A-Conspiracy

      

  • brian writes:
    October 22nd, 20107:42 pmat

    someone elsewhere has raised an interesting point:

    ‘All he said was he didn’t believe the OS that 3 buildings collapsed due to fire.
    That was about it. I think the radio station commited a crime by calling the guys place of work to ask if all there shared his view.
    Thats NOT what talkback radio is about and I hope the presenter is sacked.’

    Faines behavior IS unethical in many ways: his tone, his calling up a mans workplace etc…he should be called to account.

      

    • Syd Walker writes:
      October 22nd, 201011:02 pmat

      I agree Brian. The behaviour of Jon Faine and Steve Lieberman is not OK. It’s an abuse of power. It should be followed up with complaints to the ABC Board, MediaWatch and the relevant (toothless) Government watchdogs.

      Time to put the pressure on these ‘journalists’ who are doing such a gross disservice to the public they’re supposed to serve.

        

  • brian writes:
    October 23rd, 201010:31 amat
  • SydWalker.info» Blog Archive » Faine reveals 9-11 link to Afghanistan motivated Bracken’s call writes:
    October 23rd, 20101:14 pmat
  • Bruce Boyle writes:
    October 24th, 20105:47 amat

    Thanks for the opinion pole results
    Braken is correct.LINK (in brown)

    http://feeds.bignewsnetwork.com/?sid=699019

    Australian union leader rejects 9/11 explanation –”The trouble is, mate, blokes like you are keeping most of the people in the dark”. 21 Oct 2010 A prominent Australian union leader has suggested the official story of the World Trade Centre attacks is untrue. The president of the Victorian Trades Hall Council, Kevin Bracken, told ABC Radio in Australia he thought the official US government explanation was a “conspiracy theory that doesn’t stand up to scientific scrutiny”. …Bracken went on: “Well, the fact is that aviation fuel doesn’t get hot enough to melt steel. In my mind the buildings were imploded”.

    OBSERVATION

    The trouble is, mate, that these American blokes don’t investigate, they can’t believe that a criminal enterprise, one armed with a military that doesn’t blink when it comes to blowing away entire villages in places like Iraq, Pakistan, Afghanistan, and Honduras, or torturing people to death in Abu Ghraib “would ever lie to them.” These blokes reject science and critical thinking. These blokes can’t imagine that the “official conspiracy” fed to them by Rupert Murdock, the Pentagon, Home Land Security, the Project for a new American Century, the Heritage and the American Enterprise Institute “fog machines”, the “talking heads” on the networks, the opinion makers and influence peddlers in the news and press, the people at AIPAC, on Wall Street, political candidates, the leader of government, would lie: or that the their mates in fact practice the Big Lie technique. (Or that these opinion elites are just as naive as they themselves seem to be.) These blokes selectively reject and ignore facts when it makes them uncomfortable. The blokes are ignorant of physical science, history, and critical reason and thus reject scientific findings. They ignore the questions raise by David Ray Griffin, and scientist like Steven E, Jones, not to mention the committee of international investigators that found high concentrations of thermite in the air-samples taken at ground zero and opened eight years after 9/11. These blokes reject the suggestion –via evidence— that explosives charges brought the Twin Tower and Building # 7 to the ground. The troubles is, mate, these blokes can’t conceive of a “false flag operation” or imagine that the Bush administration –while lying them into a major war– founded their propaganda on bigger lie a real lie used to instigate and to rally hatred and patriotism. These blokes reject the notion of an insurance scam that reaped tens of billions of dollars for a few short months work or that it could be pulled off. And subsequently, hundreds of billions of dollars for subcontracts. Tens of thousand of people worked to develop the atom bombs used on Nagasaki and Hiroshima and no one talked! No word got out. Not a word. . . The Bernie Madoff scam didn’t happen either . . . Men didn’t walk on the moon . . . And the group known as “Gelitin” was just “Tower Squatters,” or an art experiment. . . “Pull it!” Larry Silverstein shouts. And all these blokes suddenly go deaf, dumb and mindless.

      

  • Brendan writes:
    October 24th, 20109:36 amat

    Really liked the way you finished this great article that summarized the recent wave of media energy thanks to Kevin Bracken.

    This topic was discussed, mostly dismissed during Parliament by the Prime Minister and others. The prime Minister dismissed this topic quickly, just as I did to my crazy cousin when he first told me about 9/11 things. I think this is very healthy first step. In a few months I think it would be right time to push the 9/11 Mysteries DVD to SBS or ABC to air.

    That would be great and worth a shot, but I think we need the credibility of the Scientist and Engineers of Australia making the statements. I think we should set up a ‘study’ or ‘survey’, sent to all members of Engineers Australia to see what their scientific oppinion is. Hopefully this could produce a strong majority in favour of a new investigation like ae911truth.org, even if not, it would at least get the right people to seriously watch the material. I’m sure there are more Richard Gauges within Australia ready to come forth like Kevin Bracken.

    looking forward to sharing this wonderful planet without this supremacy

      

    • Syd Walker writes:
      October 24th, 20103:22 pmat

      Thanks Brendan. I think it’s up to everyone to use their own personal networks, contacts and talents. We certainly need to put pressure on professional organisations as you suggest, on politicins and on the media. The latter have got themselves in an absurd bind over this. Now they’re squirming. We should keep prodding. Refusal to dicsuss what is evidently a large and credible body of opinion is ‘unsustainable’, to coin a cliche :-)

        

    • Paul Mason writes:
      January 28th, 201111:06 pmat

      I totally agree that the engineers of Australia should rise up and debunk the ludicrous official story and being one of them I am trying my best.

      However it is not as easy as it sounds. Engineers, by their nature, are mostly a very conservative bunch, not used to “rocking the boat” and many also have difficulty thinking “big picture”.

      I am a structural engineer of 36 years experience and personally have no doubt whatsoever that all three WTC buildings were explosively demolished. You really don’t even need to be an engineer to realise, “collapses” cannot happen at free-fall acceleration and at the same time cause complete pulverisation of all components. When you combine those facts with the asymmetric damage supposedly causing completely symmetrical “collapse” and the videos quite obviously showing explosive failure of the steel you just know that the whole official story is just a total farce.

      Even so when I suggest this to colleagues I get a whole variety of responses. A minority can see the contradictions immediately and are as appalled as I am. But unfortunately the majority, surprisingly, have difficulty in putting all the pieces together and forming their own conclusions. I suspect it comes from a mentality used to following rules and established procedures…something that contradicts the orthodoxy is then something to be suspicious of!

      Fortunately we have the David Chandlers of the world. Watch this and be convinced:

        

      • Syd Walker writes:
        January 29th, 20119:51 amat

        Thanks Paul. Very interesting comment.

          

  • Sam writes:
    October 24th, 201011:13 pmat

    I support the view of Kevin Bracken that 911 truth should be properly investigated. The investigation should be based on science & facts, instead of political correctness.

    Jon Faine’s act is unprofessional and rude. ABC should try to be politically neutral. Otherwise, it will lose the trust of listeners. Jon is very distructive to ABC’s image and should be removed.

      

  • SydWalker.info» Blog Archive » Bracken on firm ground writes:
    October 25th, 20109:22 amat
    • Political Scientist writes:
      October 30th, 201012:36 amat

      Greetings from Canada, Syd!

      Your Mr. Braken is becoming an international hero for his cool, calm demeanour and persistent focus on the facts of 9/11 in his radio conversations with Jon Faine.

      I listened just moments ago to an mp3 of his first call into Faine’s show, and was immediately struck by Faine’s ignorant, rude and evasive comments and non-sequiturs, all delivered in a smug, condescending tone, while Bracken calmly returned to the facts of 9/11.

      Faine came across as intellectually dishonest, and a paid shill for the “official conspiracy theory” as presented by the 9/11 Commission Report, even as the MAJORITY (6 of 10) of the 9/11 Commissioners, including BOTH Co-Chairmen, and the Commission’s General Counsel, have stated publicly that the Report is NOT THE TRUTH.

      See http://911summary.com/911c.php .

      So, why should anyone believe a scumbag shill like Jon Faine??

      And, when commenting on Bracken’s statements, your Ms. Gillard called the MAJORITY of the 9/11 Commissioners “stupid and dumb”. Not very lady-like, eh?

      Good on Kevin Bracken!! We urge him to keep up the good fight. The truth will prevail. Clearly, the newspaper poll showed that nearly 80% of Australians support Bracken’s statements, and demonstrates that 9/11 truth is becoming the view of the majority.

      On the above-referenced poll, I noted that the newspaper pulled the plug on the poll, and the comments section thereon, when it became evident that the poll results were clearly going to exceed 80% in favour of Mr. Bracken’s comments. That would have made Ms. Gillard’s comments part of a “fringe minority’s views”. Embarrassing, eh?

      Best regards from the Great White North,

      Political Scientist

        

      • Political Scientist writes:
        October 30th, 201010:44 amat

        My sincere apologies to Mr. Bracken for mistyping his name in the first sentence.

        Hail, Bracken!! Give those s.o.b.’s hell! They well deserve it.

          

  • SydWalker.info» Blog Archive » War criminal Howard gets shoe treatment writes:
    October 26th, 20103:33 pmat
  • Edmond of Brisbane writes:
    November 1st, 20101:48 amat

    Anyone that has honestly looked into and logically thought about the official story will know that it can’t be true.

    Building 7, stand down orders at St Andrew’s air base, Barry Jennings, the list goes on and on.

    The sad and frustrating thing for me is that a lot of people don’t care about the truth, when i tell my close friends and family… first they don’t believe but then they just say they don’t care, even if it was true.

    Even my Christian friends.

      

    • Syd Walker writes:
      November 1st, 20102:28 pmat

      I sympathise entirely Edmond.

      About a year after 9-11 I had an opportunity to discuss 9-11 with an old friend who works as a journalist. His reaction, after he’d asked a number of probing and intelligent questions that clearly showed he understood the issues: “What’s it got to do with me?” I’ve had similar reactions from a number of old friends.

      Even so, I do believe that bit by bit we’re winning. In Australia, Parliament and the mass media are now wholly unrepresentative of a very large strand of informed public opinion. That’s not a stable situation.

        

  • mike carr writes:
    October 10th, 201111:02 pmat

    I have spent the last few months looking at this issue of 911….yes, for 10 years I didn’t.

    911 is the biggest lie told to my generation…..
    That simple…anyone who has not taken the time to sit,read a little bit about it and
    come to a conclusion based on all the facts presented
    is doing themselves and future generations an injustice.

    But lets face it,most people don’t care…it’s too hard..

    Most people still believe everything they read in the paper or see on TV…that’s a shame because our
    mainstream media is so slanted one way.

    People still believe in GOD!!!!!

    Do yourself a favour….watch the three buildings fall…and just think about it.
    Then try to find any evidence that a plane crashed into the pentagon….
    If you still believe what the governments are telling you…then you are THE IDIOT!!!!

      


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