here are some real planes’ vortices; and much, much smaller planes to boot, going far slower than 535mph, even adjusting for the slow motion filming (1:20 and 2:50).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEPL7R8mXmE

i’m going back to have a suck on the crack-pipe, so i’ll call it a day for a while.

the “independent” filmers offered the networks a chance to distance themselves from material if the public really smelled a rat and wouldn’t buy it.

the naudets’ film was pure propaganda (even a true believer would cringe at some of the saccharine lines, and de niro dropped out after the first version). their story is the real mystery – who are they? where are they now, were they even french?
http://www.spingola.com/jules_naudet.htm

and whilst it’s interesting to debate by what means the twins came down, at least the digital effects are easily reproducible. so it comes down to whether one believes the networks would be willing to conspire, not whether it’s physically doable. i think they had motive.

The plane that hit the second tower hit on the right hand side of the south(?) face of the tower. If it hit the centre of the tower, it would have then collided with the core structure of the tower – the central elevator group, etc. But because it hit off-centre, it’s forward movement was only impeded by the perimeter columns of the tower, and the floors of the tower. Other than that, once the plane had broken through the windows of the building, the only other thing stopping its forward progress was the windows (and perimeter columns) on the opposite side of the building.

Even looking at the video you posted, the “nose out” claim is easily identified as a steaming heap of crap. The cloud that appears out of the opposite face of the building is just that – a cloud. It isn’t the intact nose of the plane, it’s simply the debris that made it to the other side of the building.

Richard Gage on KMPH Fox 26 in Fresno, CA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oO2yT0uBQbM&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fww3zionism.blogspot.com%2F&feature=player_embedded

I know; I could have used tiny url.

Michael Reagan, son of the former president, suggested that people who claim that “nine-eleven was an inside job,” a U.S. government conspiracy, deserve to die. “Take them out and shoot them. They are traitors to this country, and shoot them. But anybody who would do that doesn’t deserve to live. You shoot them. You call them traitors, that’s what they are, and you shoot them dead. I’ll pay for the bullet.”

Guess the following traitors need to run for cover:

“41 U.S. Counter-Terrorism and Intelligence Agency Veterans Challenge the Official Account of 9/11″ http://patriotsquestion911.com/Counterterrorism_Veterans.html

University of Toronto, Nov 2008: “Hidden History of 911″ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWLuehicB4g&feature=related