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Avoiding Apples with Apartheid-Inside
September 1st, 2009 by Syd Walker

I shall soon be buying a new computer.

I’ve been buying personal computers for a quarter century – on average once every three to five years. I started out with a MacPlus in he mid-1980s. It had no hard-drive – just one drive for 8oo KB floppy discs – and a small, built-in black and white monitor. It cost around $A3,000 in 1980s dollars.

Apartheid Inside? No Thankyou!

Intel Chips? Just Say NO!

Each time I’ve been back to the shops, buying has been a joy. On every occasion, performance and capability rose dramatically while prices fell. If the entire economy was like this, we’d all be living in cornucopia.

This time I think I may be able to buy a computer that will be fantastic – for less than $A1,000!

That’s something I could only dream about until now. What will happen in 2013?!

It’s great for me that my personal computers have got so much cheaper over time. But they’re cheaper for everyone else too – and that’s even more exciting! Surely it’s now possible to provide internet access to everyone on earth – everyone who wishes to have it – within the next few years? IT is bringing the people of earth together.

I’m facing some purchasing dilemmas, of course – but that’s the fun of buying! Shall I buy local – or via the net? Purchase a package deal – or put the package together myself? There’s a choice of vendors and brands.

No Apple Today Thanks!

No Apple Today Thanks!

One thing I certainly shall not be doing is buying a computer that runs on Intel chips. Apparently Intel supports Apartheid Israel. I don’t.

It would be interesting to know how many Intel chips are purchased in Arab and Muslim countries. How many Christians buy Intel? How many political progressives? If they buy any at all, I hope they have good reasons. Why support Apartheid if you have a choice?

On this occasion I was seriously considering moving back to the Apple operating system, which I regretfully abandoned in the mid ’90s.  I love Apple computers. I’d be prepared to pay more for an Apple…

Then I checked the Apple website. Every new Apple computer on sale in Australia today runs on Intel chips.

What a shame when an old Apple fan feels the need to boycott his favorite IT company. But the greater tragedy is that Apples run on Apartheid-infected chips.

Macplus to iMac

I'd been drooling over an iMac - until I found out what makes it tick

I understand no major corporation is free of all ideological blemish.

People may write in to explain that AMD do naughty things too. I invite factually-based comments on this. And yes, I’m aware there has been pressure on AMD for some time to have a bigger presence in the Jewish Apartheid State in Palestine.

But Intel is clearly involved in Israel up to its neck.

As long as that’s the case, I’ll avoid Intel chips whenever possible.

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24 Responses  
  • mark writes:
    September 5th, 2009 at 1:39 pm

    Nick: Don’t worry Mark. The situation in Israel will sort itself out eventually, especially if, as predicted,the Muslim population in Europe will become a majority.
    Hopefully liberated Palestine won’t turn out the same way as today’s Zimbabwe.
    But that’s probably down to some Zionist conspiracy as well.

    The situation in Palestine is entirely the fault of Zionist Israel.

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  • Apartheid ? writes:
    September 4th, 2009 at 4:20 pm

    http://australiansforpalestine.com/lyons-john-home-truths-22-23aug09#more-6428

    It is bigger that just “Apartheid Israel”…It is all about Greater Israel..and the fact that Europeans are being engineered to go off like a shaped charge munition in the direction of the Middle East. Someone’s got to clear out the Arabs. It will be the militaries of the US, Europe, Canada, UK and Australia. Hence the howls of pained wailing to do with the “existential” threat of “Islamic Terrorism”. In the meantime, Europe and all majority European derived communities are deconstructed through immigration.

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  • mark writes:
    September 4th, 2009 at 9:01 am

    Nick: I can do both..
    The post was about boycotts and computer chips. I mentioned the Belfast Peace Wall as an aside.
    You jumped in with “batting for Israel” and dragging out the tired old “Zionist’ slur.
    I’ll refrain from commenting on this blog, if that makes you happy, so you can stop getting all worked up about nothing.
    And don’t worry,I’m not part of some secret Zionist conspiracy trying to undermine your cause. I’m not even Jewish.
    Mazzel Tove try though.

    You’re pretty desperate for the high moral ground. As an apologist for Israel, you can’t have it. Nice try, though.

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    • Nick writes:
      September 4th, 2009 at 7:18 pm

      Don’t worry Mark. The situation in Israel will sort itself out eventually, especially if, as predicted,the Muslim population in Europe will become a majority.

      Hopefully liberated Palestine won’t turn out the same way as today’s Zimbabwe.
      But that’s probably down to some Zionist conspiracy as well.

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  • Nick writes:
    September 3rd, 2009 at 5:07 pm

    mark: Shouldn’t you be reading rather than sniping?

    I can do both..

    The post was about boycotts and computer chips. I mentioned the Belfast Peace Wall as an aside.

    You jumped in with “batting for Israel” and dragging out the tired old “Zionist’ slur.

    I’ll refrain from commenting on this blog, if that makes you happy, so you can stop getting all worked up about nothing.

    And don’t worry,I’m not part of some secret Zionist conspiracy trying to undermine your cause. I’m not even Jewish.

    Mazzel Tov

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  • mark writes:
    September 3rd, 2009 at 3:20 pm

    Nick: Nick writes:
    September 3rd, 2009 at 3:10 pm
    mark: You seem to visit quite frequently
    Yes, I am interested in other people’s opinions and trying to get both sides of a story. I don’t call people names and resort to slogans when I disagree with them.
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    Sure you don’t, sure.

    Shouldn’t you be reading rather than sniping?

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  • Nick writes:
    September 3rd, 2009 at 3:10 pm

    mark: You seem to visit quite frequently

    Yes, I am interested in other people’s opinions and trying to get both sides of a story. I don’t call people names and resort to slogans when I disagree with them.

    “such a dopey comment”

    I didn’t know Zionists smoked dope. Maybe they should, it might broaden their minds..

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  • mark writes:
    September 3rd, 2009 at 1:09 pm

    Nick: The world is one great conspiracy,Mark and there is a Zionist under every bed. Anybody who does not agree with what you is obviously a Zionist.

    I’ll admit I probably appear that way to some. Fact is, I believe there is a Zionist conspiracy and has been for many decades. You only need scroll through the well researched pages on this site to discover that. You seem to visit quite frequently. Fortunately, things look like they might be slowly changing, thanks largely to the internet.

    As for the second sentence, you don’t expect me to reply to such a dopey comment, do you.

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  • Nick writes:
    September 3rd, 2009 at 9:32 am

    mark:
    Zionist ’spin’
    Stumps.

    The world is one great conspiracy,Mark and there is a Zionist under every bed. Anybody who does not agree with what you is obviously a Zionist. This view greatly enhances your credibility.

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  • mark writes:
    September 3rd, 2009 at 6:20 am

    Nick: Syd mentioned the Great Wall of China, I mentioned the Belfast Peace Wall.
    What’s ridiculous about that ?
    And what’s cricket got to do with Israel ?
    What a ridiculous metaphor!

    You were suggesting an equivalence with the situation in occupied Palestine.

    I don’t think the reference to cricket is ridiculous but you’re entitled to your opinion. For me, this site is a ‘pitch’ which is not receptive to Zionist ’spin’ but I’ll give you points for trying.

    Stumps.

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  • Nick writes:
    September 2nd, 2009 at 5:57 pm

    Syd Walker;
    It makes perfect sense, Nick.
    The aim is to influence corporate behaviour.
    That’s what began to happen with South Africa in the 1980s. We can do it again.

    If it bring peace to the Middle East , then I’m all for it (but I’ll keep my Mac with Intel chips !)

    Here are some products that Israel exports, so you better be careful what you buy :

    Electronics ,Telecommunications ,IT ,Computer hardware and software ,Pharmaceuticals ,Dental equipment,
    Biotechnology ,Automotive ,Packaging ,Electrical ,Hardware ,Automotive,Packaging ,Space and aviation
    ,Engineering ,Infrastructure projects ,Agricultural equipment and chemicals ,Agrotechnology ,Environmental technologies and products ,Fashion and textiles ,Jewelry, arts and crafts, ,Cosmetics and toiletries ,Toys and games ,Food and beverage ,Film and TV ,Office supplies ,Optics ,Books and publishing

    Despite all sort of boycotts that have been going on for decades, a lot of Israeli exports end up in Arab countries anyway, often through third parties like Cyprus.

    Recent boycotts by Europe have resulted in a 5 to 10 % decline in exports to Europe.

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    • Syd Walker writes:
      September 2nd, 2009 at 6:43 pm

      Nick – I agree an economic boycott isn’t easy to implement. But nothing ventured, nothing gained.

      Banning Israeli sportsmen and women from international competition (until they give equal rights to all sportspeople, non-Jewish as well as Jewish) would be simpler to effect. Likewise an academic boycott. A tourism boycott could have a clear impact too.

      Ultimately, the people controlling the Israeli State must be made to realize they can’t get away with murder any longer. Surely that’s not too hard to say – and not too hard to achieve?

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  • Nick writes:
    September 2nd, 2009 at 5:43 pm

    mark:
    Then why the ridiculous analogy?

    Syd mentioned the Great Wall of China, I mentioned the Belfast Peace Wall.

    What’s ridiculous about that ?

    And what’s cricket got to do with Israel ?

    What a ridiculous metaphor!

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  • mark writes:
    September 2nd, 2009 at 4:39 pm

    Nick: I wasn’t.

    Then why the ridiculous analogy?

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  • Nick writes:
    September 2nd, 2009 at 3:42 pm

    mark:

    Don’t bother batting for Israel. They’re already all out.

    I wasn’t.

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  • Nick writes:
    September 2nd, 2009 at 2:48 pm

    Syd Walker:

    Nick, you mention the ’separation barrier’ in Belfast – relic of The Troubles – presumably to suggest some kind of equivalence with the situation in Palestine. But there is a major difference you neglect to mention.Take a look at a photo of “Gates in a peace line, Lanark Way, West Belfast” sourced from Wikipedia.
    Notice the difference between that and the Jewish Paranoia Wall in Palestine?In Belfast, the gates are wide open.

    Yes and this it what it takes too keep them open :

    http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/12-arrests-after-south-belfast-rioting-14231214.html?action=Popup

    I was not trying to suggest some kind of equivalence between Israel and Northern Ireland.

    The point I was trying to make is that when you got this sort of on-going conflict between 2 closely related parties there are only 3 solutions :

    1)They can keep on fighting till they forget what it was what they were fighting about
    2)One party can annihilate the other
    3)They can find a way to live together and until they do that it is probably best to try and keep them apart.

    I think this applies to the situation in Israel as much as it does to Northern Ireland.

    As for boycotts : the suggestion on this blog that someone did not buy a Japanese car, because they kill whales and bought a Korean one instead, despite the fact that Koreans torture and eat dogs, demonstrates the absurdity of it all.

    So you buy American computer chips instead (made in slave factories in Mexico or China). America subsidises Israel on a grand scale financially, so indirectly you still support the Israeli economy.And in the meantime you deprive yourself of the pleasure of using a Mac and end using a crappy Windows system, installed on a Chinese made PC instead… it makes no sense !

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    • Syd Walker writes:
      September 2nd, 2009 at 3:45 pm

      It makes perfect sense, Nick.

      The aim is to influence corporate behaviour. Once enough corporates conclude it’s just not with the bother investing in, or trading extensively with, the State of Israel, we shall be close to the end game for the Jewish Apartheid State in Palestine.

      That’s what began to happen with South Africa in the 1980s. We can do it again.

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  • mark writes:
    September 2nd, 2009 at 12:43 pm

    Nick: By the way, did you know that there is a separation wall in Belfast as well, to stop Catholics and Protestants from killing each other ?

    That’s not analogous with the situation in occupied Palestine.

    Don’t bother batting for Israel. They’re already all out.

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  • Roger writes:
    September 1st, 2009 at 3:34 pm

    Hi Syd, I am waiting for late October when the new Windows 7 comes out, and buy a machine that has it pre-installed. Thanks for the warning on Intel chips. I bought a new car last weekend, a Hyundai. I was keen on a Honda but didn’t want to indirectly support the Japanese whaling industry by purchasing a Japanese car.

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    • Syd Walker writes:
      September 1st, 2009 at 5:28 pm

      Roger – I don’t know if this applies to you, but I was told today if I buy a new computer with Vista installed from now on, the upgrade to Windows 7 will be free and seamless.

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    • Nick writes:
      September 1st, 2009 at 10:49 pm

      So you support people who breed and eat dogs in the most disgraceful circumstances instead ?
      If you do not want to buy stuff made in countries that are either racist,discriminatory,environmental vandals or whatever, buy nothing.
      A huge percentage of the stuff that is sold in Australia is made in China, much of it by slave labour.
      So even if those Intel chips were not made in Israel, it is likely that the computer was assembled in China.
      Funny thing is in the 70’s people in Europe boycotted South african oranges (Outspan) and bought Israeli instead. Does South Africa make computer chips ?

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      • Syd Walker writes:
        September 2nd, 2009 at 8:10 am

        Nick – For all it’s faults (and as you say, which country is perfect?), China is not establishing a supremacist Apartheid State. It does not repeatedly attack its neighbours. It is not re-building the Great Wall of China, as it realizes that so-called ’separation fences’ are best used as tourist attractions in this day and age.

        Boycott China if wish, Nick – or don’t boycott anyone. I shall avoid Apartheid-Inside computers whenever possible – and I’m grateful to have the choice.

        AMD, incidentally, is headquartered in the USA.

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        • Nick writes:
          September 2nd, 2009 at 10:33 am

          Well I’m sorry you will be deprived from enjoying one of the excellent Apple Macs, because of where some of the components are made. The fact that the Intel chips are made in Israel probably means that they are of superior quality.

          That does not mean that I approve of what you call Israel’s “apartheid’ regime.I just think that these sort of boycotts are fairly useless, the way the world economy is interwoven nowadays. But if it makes you feel better to support Microsoft instead, go for it.

          By the way, did you know that there is a separation wall in Belfast as well, to stop Catholics and Protestants from killing each other ?

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          • Syd Walker writes:
            September 2nd, 2009 at 12:52 pm

            I’m sorry too not to be buying an Apple this time round.

            But there is a simple solution. Apple can use different chips and/or Intel can pull out of the Jewish Apartheid State in Palestine.

            The best solution of all would be ending Apartheid in the Palestine. Then – along with millions of others – I’ll be happy to purchase the fruits of their labour and ingenuity.

            Incidentally, the ferocity with which Israel’s apologists attack proposals for boycotts suggests to me that a comprehensive boycott of the Zionist State is much feared – and that it would be very effective in forcing real change.

            Such a boycott should include sporting ties, cultural and academic ties, an economic/trade embargo and of course a complete ban on weapons trading. Israeli companies should be subjected to boycott. Companies that trade with the Zionist State should be boycotted. There’s probably a need for exemptions on humanitarian grounds, but basically I’d like to see ‘Israel’ excluded from the family of nations as things stand.

            After all – don’t we care about a country with nuclear weapons that refuses international inspection and won’t sign the non-proliferation treaty?

            Nick, you mention the ’separation barrier’ in Belfast – relic of The Troubles – presumably to suggest some kind of equivalence with the situation in Palestine. But there is a major difference you neglect to mention.

            Take a look at a photo of “Gates in a peace line, Lanark Way, West Belfast” sourced from Wikipedia.

            Notice the difference between that and the Jewish Paranoia Wall in Palestine?

            In Belfast, the gates are wide open.

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