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	<title>Comments on: Clueless in Gaza: The Australian Greens</title>
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		<title>By: Australian Quislings Avoid Geneva Nasty Speech</title>
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		<dc:creator>Australian Quislings Avoid Geneva Nasty Speech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 02:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] nasty too to hear that Australia’s official Opposition is just as pathetic - and even the Australian Greens aren&#8217;t far [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Syd Walker</title>
		<link>http://sydwalker.info/blog/2008/12/31/clueless-in-gaza-the-australian-greens/comment-page-1/#comment-771</link>
		<dc:creator>Syd Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 14:31:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks jtc

I hadn&#039;t heard of the initiative you mention. But it can&#039;t be quite as you report it. The Australian Parliament, sadly, has no jurisdiction over Gaza. Then again, maybe it&#039;s just as well :-)

There are various obvious ways in which the Greens could toughen up their Palestine/Israel policy, IMO. I mention some of these in a successor article: &lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://sydwalker.info/blog/2009/01/08/a-new-script-for-dr-brown/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;A New Script for Dr Brown&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks jtc</p>
<p>I hadn&#8217;t heard of the initiative you mention. But it can&#8217;t be quite as you report it. The Australian Parliament, sadly, has no jurisdiction over Gaza. Then again, maybe it&#8217;s just as well <img src='http://sydwalker.info/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>There are various obvious ways in which the Greens could toughen up their Palestine/Israel policy, IMO. I mention some of these in a successor article: <strong><a href="http://sydwalker.info/blog/2009/01/08/a-new-script-for-dr-brown/" rel="nofollow">A New Script for Dr Brown</a></strong></p>
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		<title>By: jtc</title>
		<link>http://sydwalker.info/blog/2008/12/31/clueless-in-gaza-the-australian-greens/comment-page-1/#comment-770</link>
		<dc:creator>jtc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 12:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Greens may not have spoken out as much against this as much as people would have liked, but they haven&#039;t been completely silent. 

A state Greens MP politician spoke at the Melbourne Free Palestine rally a few weeks ago, quoted Bob Brown&#039;s comments on the issue and mentioned how the Greens tried to pass a bill in parliament to allow independant media in Gaza (keep in mind parliament hasn&#039;t sat for months, so this would have happened a while before this round of conflict started).

The Greens website was updated on 9th Jan with a message from Bob Brown, he mainly supports the UN and says &quot;The Australian Government&#039;s backing of the Bush administration&#039;s near universal support for Israel&#039;s&#039; actions is an abrogation of international and human rights law and will do nothing to bring about peace in the middle east.&quot;

Ive only just done some shallow reading, but some more indepth reading might turn up more results, especially as the only reason i knew about the bill was from hearing it mentioned at the rally, who knows how many similar proposals they have made that we havent heard about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Greens may not have spoken out as much against this as much as people would have liked, but they haven&#8217;t been completely silent. </p>
<p>A state Greens MP politician spoke at the Melbourne Free Palestine rally a few weeks ago, quoted Bob Brown&#8217;s comments on the issue and mentioned how the Greens tried to pass a bill in parliament to allow independant media in Gaza (keep in mind parliament hasn&#8217;t sat for months, so this would have happened a while before this round of conflict started).</p>
<p>The Greens website was updated on 9th Jan with a message from Bob Brown, he mainly supports the UN and says &#8220;The Australian Government&#8217;s backing of the Bush administration&#8217;s near universal support for Israel&#8217;s&#8217; actions is an abrogation of international and human rights law and will do nothing to bring about peace in the middle east.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ive only just done some shallow reading, but some more indepth reading might turn up more results, especially as the only reason i knew about the bill was from hearing it mentioned at the rally, who knows how many similar proposals they have made that we havent heard about.</p>
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		<title>By: Von Curtis</title>
		<link>http://sydwalker.info/blog/2008/12/31/clueless-in-gaza-the-australian-greens/comment-page-1/#comment-599</link>
		<dc:creator>Von Curtis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 11:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting article  and comments    2009 - Time to wake up
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article21600.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting article  and comments    2009 &#8211; Time to wake up<br />
<a href="http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article21600.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article21600.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Von Curtis</title>
		<link>http://sydwalker.info/blog/2008/12/31/clueless-in-gaza-the-australian-greens/comment-page-1/#comment-598</link>
		<dc:creator>Von Curtis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 11:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes Syd , I don&#039;t know whether he is a  white supremacist or not - I never look at Wikipedia I just thought the article was interesting particularly for the US  but  also us in Australia as &quot;it&quot; as he calls it  will happen - the lies and deceit our mainstream media feed us  cannot go on. 
 Keep up the great work Syd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes Syd , I don&#8217;t know whether he is a  white supremacist or not &#8211; I never look at Wikipedia I just thought the article was interesting particularly for the US  but  also us in Australia as &#8220;it&#8221; as he calls it  will happen &#8211; the lies and deceit our mainstream media feed us  cannot go on.<br />
 Keep up the great work Syd.</p>
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		<title>By: Syd Walker</title>
		<link>http://sydwalker.info/blog/2008/12/31/clueless-in-gaza-the-australian-greens/comment-page-1/#comment-597</link>
		<dc:creator>Syd Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 08:12:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In resarching Mr Turner a little more, I find he has a rough tongue. I certainly don&#039;t endorse all his views. But the same is true of every website I link to.

Apparently Turner was chummy with Sean Hannity in the past, but there&#039;s been a parting of the ways.

Whereas Hannity is now a loathsome shill for the Zionist cause on Fox News, supporting every US and Israeli military adventure that&#039;s going, Turner seems less keen on illegal, unjust wars. It&#039;s a first impression, but there it is... 

Now, even though I greatly dislike Hannity and Fox News, I don&#039;t intend to stop linking to them when it&#039;s called for in a given context. In general, I want to keep a fairly open links policy, but retain the right to cull comments if I see fit and in this space, the editor&#039;s decision is final. 

If anyone believes a comment is offensive, inaccurate or otherwise too naff to publish, feel free to contact me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In resarching Mr Turner a little more, I find he has a rough tongue. I certainly don&#8217;t endorse all his views. But the same is true of every website I link to.</p>
<p>Apparently Turner was chummy with Sean Hannity in the past, but there&#8217;s been a parting of the ways.</p>
<p>Whereas Hannity is now a loathsome shill for the Zionist cause on Fox News, supporting every US and Israeli military adventure that&#8217;s going, Turner seems less keen on illegal, unjust wars. It&#8217;s a first impression, but there it is&#8230; </p>
<p>Now, even though I greatly dislike Hannity and Fox News, I don&#8217;t intend to stop linking to them when it&#8217;s called for in a given context. In general, I want to keep a fairly open links policy, but retain the right to cull comments if I see fit and in this space, the editor&#8217;s decision is final. </p>
<p>If anyone believes a comment is offensive, inaccurate or otherwise too naff to publish, feel free to contact me.</p>
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		<title>By: Syd Walker</title>
		<link>http://sydwalker.info/blog/2008/12/31/clueless-in-gaza-the-australian-greens/comment-page-1/#comment-596</link>
		<dc:creator>Syd Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 07:56:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also have no time for &#039;white supremacism&#039; or supremacism of any kind, for that matter.

I&#039;m also aware that some people are unfairly labelled as &#039;white supremacists&#039; when they&#039;re not, especially by the ADL and kindred organizations. I also note the ADL - and kindred organisations - are themsleves supremacist organizations (Jewish supremacist). 

This raises difficult issues in terms of deciding whether to allow or disallow comments. I&#039;m finding my way...

Perhaps Von Curtis could tell us whether, in his opinion, Hal Turner is a &#039;white supremacist&#039; and if so whether he supports that? More generally, why did he choose that particular quotation? It has a menacing tone that I dislike. 

Another thing that can (and does) happen on the net, in my experience, is people playing deceptive roles, in attempts to get websites banned and black-listed. &#039;Tis a shocking world we live in :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also have no time for &#8216;white supremacism&#8217; or supremacism of any kind, for that matter.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m also aware that some people are unfairly labelled as &#8216;white supremacists&#8217; when they&#8217;re not, especially by the ADL and kindred organizations. I also note the ADL &#8211; and kindred organisations &#8211; are themsleves supremacist organizations (Jewish supremacist). </p>
<p>This raises difficult issues in terms of deciding whether to allow or disallow comments. I&#8217;m finding my way&#8230;</p>
<p>Perhaps Von Curtis could tell us whether, in his opinion, Hal Turner is a &#8216;white supremacist&#8217; and if so whether he supports that? More generally, why did he choose that particular quotation? It has a menacing tone that I dislike. </p>
<p>Another thing that can (and does) happen on the net, in my experience, is people playing deceptive roles, in attempts to get websites banned and black-listed. &#8216;Tis a shocking world we live in <img src='http://sydwalker.info/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Alan Gresley</title>
		<link>http://sydwalker.info/blog/2008/12/31/clueless-in-gaza-the-australian-greens/comment-page-1/#comment-593</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Gresley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 05:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Von Curtis

Why do you link to the Hal Turner Show blog? I may believe in theories involving conspiracy but I am wise enough to also research anyone with alternative theories. From the Wikipedia entry for &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hal_Turner&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Hal Turner&lt;/a&gt;, it would seem that that he is a White Supremacist. This goes into the realms of racial hate which I am strongly against.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Von Curtis</p>
<p>Why do you link to the Hal Turner Show blog? I may believe in theories involving conspiracy but I am wise enough to also research anyone with alternative theories. From the Wikipedia entry for <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hal_Turner" rel="nofollow">Hal Turner</a>, it would seem that that he is a White Supremacist. This goes into the realms of racial hate which I am strongly against.</p>
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		<title>By: Von Curtis</title>
		<link>http://sydwalker.info/blog/2008/12/31/clueless-in-gaza-the-australian-greens/comment-page-1/#comment-592</link>
		<dc:creator>Von Curtis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 23:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://halturnershow.blogspot.com/2009/01/reminder-dont-be-afraid-when-it-happens.html

Reminder: Don&#039;t be afraid when &quot;it&quot; happens
 
Back on November 20, I announced to my fellow Americans that something incredible was going to happen and that they should NOT be afraid when it does. You can read that initial story Here

As we get closer to &quot;it&quot; happening, I want to once again remind you: DO NOT BE AFRAID.

In summation, we presently suffer:
a) a lying, cheating murderously-war-waging existing President;
b) a Congress that refused to do its duty to stop an illegal and unjust war,
c) a Constitutionally ineligible incoming president elect;
d) judges at the state, federal district, federal circuit and Supreme Court levels that are aiding and abetting the usurpation of the Presidency;
e) a treacherous lying, deceitful federal reserve chairman;
f) an overt lying, cheat as secretary of the Treasury.
g) a federal reserve bank that single handedly set the stage for the sub-prime mortgage crisis, AND;
h) a Congress that sides with illegal aliens over its own citizens;
i) a Congress that bails out banks with tax money from workers but tells those same workers to go to hell when their employers need help because of the crisis created by the banks!

Today, I choose my words just as carefully when I say We are going to do what HAS to be done to confront and solve these problems.

From Congress to the the Courts; from the White House to the Treasury to the federal reserve; From Bankers, to Wall Street, to the corporate board rooms of America, it is time for justice to be brought down like the sword of Damoclese. Swift. Brutal. Merciless.

When it happens, do not be afraid. This has needed to happen for a very long time to protect this Republic and the USA will be better off once it does happen.

To those of you who are about to be confronted, you brought this on yourselves</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://halturnershow.blogspot.com/2009/01/reminder-dont-be-afraid-when-it-happens.html" rel="nofollow">http://halturnershow.blogspot.com/2009/01/reminder-dont-be-afraid-when-it-happens.html</a></p>
<p>Reminder: Don&#8217;t be afraid when &#8220;it&#8221; happens</p>
<p>Back on November 20, I announced to my fellow Americans that something incredible was going to happen and that they should NOT be afraid when it does. You can read that initial story Here</p>
<p>As we get closer to &#8220;it&#8221; happening, I want to once again remind you: DO NOT BE AFRAID.</p>
<p>In summation, we presently suffer:<br />
a) a lying, cheating murderously-war-waging existing President;<br />
b) a Congress that refused to do its duty to stop an illegal and unjust war,<br />
c) a Constitutionally ineligible incoming president elect;<br />
d) judges at the state, federal district, federal circuit and Supreme Court levels that are aiding and abetting the usurpation of the Presidency;<br />
e) a treacherous lying, deceitful federal reserve chairman;<br />
f) an overt lying, cheat as secretary of the Treasury.<br />
g) a federal reserve bank that single handedly set the stage for the sub-prime mortgage crisis, AND;<br />
h) a Congress that sides with illegal aliens over its own citizens;<br />
i) a Congress that bails out banks with tax money from workers but tells those same workers to go to hell when their employers need help because of the crisis created by the banks!</p>
<p>Today, I choose my words just as carefully when I say We are going to do what HAS to be done to confront and solve these problems.</p>
<p>From Congress to the the Courts; from the White House to the Treasury to the federal reserve; From Bankers, to Wall Street, to the corporate board rooms of America, it is time for justice to be brought down like the sword of Damoclese. Swift. Brutal. Merciless.</p>
<p>When it happens, do not be afraid. This has needed to happen for a very long time to protect this Republic and the USA will be better off once it does happen.</p>
<p>To those of you who are about to be confronted, you brought this on yourselves</p>
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		<title>By: Von Curtis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Von Curtis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 22:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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MCKINNEY&#039;S EXPERIENCE
jintampa
 Cynthia is nothing but a thorn in their collective side.
She and Ron Paul should be running this country. I hope she is careful though, sounds like they knew she was aboard and maybe wanted her to go swimming?
01/01/2009 - 14:422A Curious Case of Cynthia McKinney.

poorrichard 
Sounds about right to me.. I like what Cynthia McKinney is doing.
01/01/2009 - 13:34

lvillas 
Once again, we are in agreement poorrichard. This woman just keeps pushing....she is like a pitt bull with lipstick! But seriously, she speaks truth to power with a rigteous anger born from the powers that be continually trying to take her down and shut her up. She just keeps coming back at them. She is playing with fire there in Israel, though how perfectly she fit the &#039;67 Israeli attack on the USS Liberty into her current experience was genius. I admire her tremendously especially her calling Obama out!
01/01/2009 - 14:14</description>
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<p>MCKINNEY&#8217;S EXPERIENCE<br />
jintampa<br />
 Cynthia is nothing but a thorn in their collective side.<br />
She and Ron Paul should be running this country. I hope she is careful though, sounds like they knew she was aboard and maybe wanted her to go swimming?<br />
01/01/2009 &#8211; 14:422A Curious Case of Cynthia McKinney.</p>
<p>poorrichard<br />
Sounds about right to me.. I like what Cynthia McKinney is doing.<br />
01/01/2009 &#8211; 13:34</p>
<p>lvillas<br />
Once again, we are in agreement poorrichard. This woman just keeps pushing&#8230;.she is like a pitt bull with lipstick! But seriously, she speaks truth to power with a rigteous anger born from the powers that be continually trying to take her down and shut her up. She just keeps coming back at them. She is playing with fire there in Israel, though how perfectly she fit the &#8217;67 Israeli attack on the USS Liberty into her current experience was genius. I admire her tremendously especially her calling Obama out!<br />
01/01/2009 &#8211; 14:14</p>
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