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		<title>By: Julia</title>
		<link>http://sydwalker.info/blog/2008/11/26/clive-hamilton-me-sex-lies-hate-censorship/comment-page-1/#comment-1260</link>
		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 03:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>vealmince, respond to the facts. Stop labelling people accusing them of everything. The mainstream media was and IS *factually* wrong on the wars in the middle east. Not only this their bias extends to suppressing the importance of the deaths and injury inflicted on the people of those countries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>vealmince, respond to the facts. Stop labelling people accusing them of everything. The mainstream media was and IS *factually* wrong on the wars in the middle east. Not only this their bias extends to suppressing the importance of the deaths and injury inflicted on the people of those countries.</p>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
		<link>http://sydwalker.info/blog/2008/11/26/clive-hamilton-me-sex-lies-hate-censorship/comment-page-1/#comment-1259</link>
		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 03:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article. Clear, rational, and intelligent, based on facts.

Clive hamilton is a fraud who should be stripped of his titles (if he has any).</description>
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<p>Clive hamilton is a fraud who should be stripped of his titles (if he has any).</p>
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		<title>By: Diana A</title>
		<link>http://sydwalker.info/blog/2008/11/26/clive-hamilton-me-sex-lies-hate-censorship/comment-page-1/#comment-420</link>
		<dc:creator>Diana A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 06:03:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am reading this article in a work break at my desk choosing to follow the links in the text of the commentary I selected several links adjacent the images of the elderly Literature Proffessor in France to see what he had written.

Unfortunately the filters on my work&#039;s ISP responded with a message that &quot;Racism and Hate&quot; are filtered so I must assume that the injured man must be a purveyor of hate and racist literature.

Following down the article I find links adjacent discussion of the basis of the US invasion of Iraq was the result &quot;of orchestrations by Zionist pro-Israeli interests&quot;,  so I follow the link and read the articles.  From this I can only justifiiably conclude that pro-Israeli zionists are good anti-racists without hate.  

I am so thankful that the Government of this fine land has subscribed to a US Government provision of internet filtering so that I can make up my own mind about the world in an intelectual, researched and reasoned manner.

How then am I to consider the same &quot;racism and hate&quot; filters blocking access to a four wheel drive vehicle site directed towards vehicles with 36&quot; tyres.  (On the site there are no images or discussion of genecide or any other racist material, just 4X4s with big wheels.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am reading this article in a work break at my desk choosing to follow the links in the text of the commentary I selected several links adjacent the images of the elderly Literature Proffessor in France to see what he had written.</p>
<p>Unfortunately the filters on my work&#8217;s ISP responded with a message that &#8220;Racism and Hate&#8221; are filtered so I must assume that the injured man must be a purveyor of hate and racist literature.</p>
<p>Following down the article I find links adjacent discussion of the basis of the US invasion of Iraq was the result &#8220;of orchestrations by Zionist pro-Israeli interests&#8221;,  so I follow the link and read the articles.  From this I can only justifiiably conclude that pro-Israeli zionists are good anti-racists without hate.  </p>
<p>I am so thankful that the Government of this fine land has subscribed to a US Government provision of internet filtering so that I can make up my own mind about the world in an intelectual, researched and reasoned manner.</p>
<p>How then am I to consider the same &#8220;racism and hate&#8221; filters blocking access to a four wheel drive vehicle site directed towards vehicles with 36&#8243; tyres.  (On the site there are no images or discussion of genecide or any other racist material, just 4X4s with big wheels.)</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Gresley</title>
		<link>http://sydwalker.info/blog/2008/11/26/clive-hamilton-me-sex-lies-hate-censorship/comment-page-1/#comment-399</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Gresley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 14:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vealmice:

I see that you take the blue pill. It may seem hard at first to contemplate that particular elements inside the United States and Israel are behind 9/11, but when one is confronted with images of world leaders engaged in &lt;a href=&quot;http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=sZD3WT3Vqa8&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;mock human sacrifice&lt;/a&gt; then perceived reality flies quickly out the window. It is you who is the weak-minded fool. It is you who is like a sheep being led blindly to the slaughter. It is you who believe governments tell the truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vealmice:</p>
<p>I see that you take the blue pill. It may seem hard at first to contemplate that particular elements inside the United States and Israel are behind 9/11, but when one is confronted with images of world leaders engaged in <a href="http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=sZD3WT3Vqa8" rel="nofollow">mock human sacrifice</a> then perceived reality flies quickly out the window. It is you who is the weak-minded fool. It is you who is like a sheep being led blindly to the slaughter. It is you who believe governments tell the truth.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 04:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vealmice says:

&quot;Much of the right-leaning commercial media, particularly in the US, has a pro-Israel bias. These are uncontroversial.&quot;

Who says it&#039;s &#039;&#039;uncontroversial&#039;&#039;? Certainly not the Palestinians, who have been steadily dispossessed and murdered for sixty years. I guess for people like you the Palestinians don&#039;t count. 

The pro-Israel bias of western media and Governments is definitely controversial and disgraceful. Just like you, Vealmice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vealmice says:</p>
<p>&#8220;Much of the right-leaning commercial media, particularly in the US, has a pro-Israel bias. These are uncontroversial.&#8221;</p>
<p>Who says it&#8217;s &#8221;uncontroversial&#8221;? Certainly not the Palestinians, who have been steadily dispossessed and murdered for sixty years. I guess for people like you the Palestinians don&#8217;t count. </p>
<p>The pro-Israel bias of western media and Governments is definitely controversial and disgraceful. Just like you, Vealmice.</p>
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		<title>By: vealmince</title>
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		<dc:creator>vealmince</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 02:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many (not all) leading neoconservatives are Jewish, in family origin if not always religious belief. Many support Israel. Some Jewish groups lobbied in favour of the Iraq invasion. Much of the right-leaning commercial media, particularly in the US, has a pro-Israel bias. These are uncontroversial.

But from there it&#039;s a huge stretch to say pro-Israel interests ORCHESTRATED the invasion. Or that Jewish/Zionist groups CONTROL what politicians do or what the media reports. Or that Jews invented or exaggerated the Holocaust to guilt the world into establishing Israel. Or that the 9/11 attacks were a Zionist-Israeli-Neoconservative plot to bolster the case for invading Iraq. (If they&#039;re as powerful as you claim, why would they need to? And why didn&#039;t they plant any evidence that directly implicated Iraq instead of the Afghanistan/Al Qa&#039;ida red herring? Clearly my thinking is not convoluted enough.)

You don&#039;t strike me as the sort of weak-minded fool who falls for conspiracy theories – which are so appealing because they explain EVERYTHING. But to explain the absence of evidence for these claims – save in a tiny circle of like-minded websites, blogs and publications – you always seem to fall back on a vast, all-powerful, worldwide Jewish conspiracy to hide the truth, of which Australia&#039;s proposed internet censorship is just the latest chapter. 

A much less incredible hypothesis is that there is no proof because these things are not true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many (not all) leading neoconservatives are Jewish, in family origin if not always religious belief. Many support Israel. Some Jewish groups lobbied in favour of the Iraq invasion. Much of the right-leaning commercial media, particularly in the US, has a pro-Israel bias. These are uncontroversial.</p>
<p>But from there it&#8217;s a huge stretch to say pro-Israel interests ORCHESTRATED the invasion. Or that Jewish/Zionist groups CONTROL what politicians do or what the media reports. Or that Jews invented or exaggerated the Holocaust to guilt the world into establishing Israel. Or that the 9/11 attacks were a Zionist-Israeli-Neoconservative plot to bolster the case for invading Iraq. (If they&#8217;re as powerful as you claim, why would they need to? And why didn&#8217;t they plant any evidence that directly implicated Iraq instead of the Afghanistan/Al Qa&#8217;ida red herring? Clearly my thinking is not convoluted enough.)</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t strike me as the sort of weak-minded fool who falls for conspiracy theories – which are so appealing because they explain EVERYTHING. But to explain the absence of evidence for these claims – save in a tiny circle of like-minded websites, blogs and publications – you always seem to fall back on a vast, all-powerful, worldwide Jewish conspiracy to hide the truth, of which Australia&#8217;s proposed internet censorship is just the latest chapter. </p>
<p>A much less incredible hypothesis is that there is no proof because these things are not true.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://sydwalker.info/blog/2008/11/26/clive-hamilton-me-sex-lies-hate-censorship/comment-page-1/#comment-358</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 01:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Admirable restraint, Sid.

These neanderthal defenders of the utterly indefensible are just so old, boring and at odds with reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Admirable restraint, Sid.</p>
<p>These neanderthal defenders of the utterly indefensible are just so old, boring and at odds with reality.</p>
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		<title>By: Syd Walker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Syd Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 13:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Vealmince&#039;.

In this reply, I&#039;ll focus only on the causes of the illegal invasion of Iraq in 2003. 

Here are a few links that support the case - which I find compelling - that the primary interest group behind the attack on Iraq was the pro-Israel lobby, both within in the USA and in other countries such as Britain and Australia. 

&#039;The Lobby&#039;, of course, works not only through politicians. It also enjoys overwhelmingly favourable treatment in the western mainstream media, espeically at critical moments such as the months preceding the Iraq invasion.

- &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thenation.com/doc/20020902/vest&quot; target=&quot;blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Men From JINSA and CSP&lt;/a&gt; by Jason Vest in The Nation (2002)

- &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thenation.com/doc/20020902/vest&quot; target=&quot;blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Israel Lobby&lt;/a&gt; by John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt in the London Review of Books, 2006

- &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.truveo.com/Scott-Ritter-On-Israel-And-AIPAC-Lobby/id/215594813&quot;target=&quot;blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Scott Ritter speaks on On Israel and AIPAC&lt;/a&gt;

- &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1932528172/ref=nosim/representativ-20&quot;target=&quot;blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Transparent Cabal: The Neoconservative Agenda, War in the Middle East, and the National Interest of Israel&lt;/a&gt; by Stephen Sniegoski, 2008</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Vealmince&#8217;.</p>
<p>In this reply, I&#8217;ll focus only on the causes of the illegal invasion of Iraq in 2003. </p>
<p>Here are a few links that support the case &#8211; which I find compelling &#8211; that the primary interest group behind the attack on Iraq was the pro-Israel lobby, both within in the USA and in other countries such as Britain and Australia. </p>
<p>&#8216;The Lobby&#8217;, of course, works not only through politicians. It also enjoys overwhelmingly favourable treatment in the western mainstream media, espeically at critical moments such as the months preceding the Iraq invasion.</p>
<p>- <a href="http://www.thenation.com/doc/20020902/vest" target="blank" rel="nofollow">The Men From JINSA and CSP</a> by Jason Vest in The Nation (2002)</p>
<p>- <a href="http://www.thenation.com/doc/20020902/vest" target="blank" rel="nofollow">The Israel Lobby</a> by John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt in the London Review of Books, 2006</p>
<p>- <a href="http://www.truveo.com/Scott-Ritter-On-Israel-And-AIPAC-Lobby/id/215594813"target="blank" rel="nofollow">Scott Ritter speaks on On Israel and AIPAC</a></p>
<p>- <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1932528172/ref=nosim/representativ-20"target="blank" rel="nofollow">The Transparent Cabal: The Neoconservative Agenda, War in the Middle East, and the National Interest of Israel</a> by Stephen Sniegoski, 2008</p>
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		<title>By: vealmince</title>
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		<dc:creator>vealmince</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 07:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gratuitous? Inaccurate? Piffle: I chose my words with great care.
Let&#039;s see. You make the utterly discredited and easily disprovable claim that Jewish Neocons (what&#039;s the difference, eh?) were behind the Iraq invasion and the &#039;war on terror&#039;. 
For &#039;proof&#039; you link to 800 Pound Gorilla, a site dedicated to examining the &quot;growing body of research/evidence implicating an international Zionist network of criminal conspiracy against humanity&quot;. Anti-semitic? Of course not!
You make oblique references to &#039;certain events during WWII&#039; and &#039;hate sites&#039; - nothing anyone could pin on you, but definitely a nudge and wink to the Holocaust-denier cognoscenti.
You talk about the &#039;truth&#039; behind 9/11 - let me guess: it was planned and executed by the Mossad and the CIA?
I&#039;m sure we&#039;d agree on a lot of things, such as the evils of internet censorship and the boring uniformity of the Western media. It&#039;s just at some point your fervour to see Jewish manipulation at every point of history has caused you and sanity to part company in a fairly severe way.
From your comments and those of your readers, I&#039;m viewed as the inevitable backlash from the Zionist whatchamajigger trying to stifle debate. But you&#039;re the one controlling what is published here and what isn&#039;t and you&#039;ve made it crystal clear how you feel about dissenting opinions... 
Also, just because people&#039;s responses are predictable doesn&#039;t prove you right - they&#039;re predictable because your Elders of Zion fantasies are so old, boring and at odds with reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gratuitous? Inaccurate? Piffle: I chose my words with great care.<br />
Let&#8217;s see. You make the utterly discredited and easily disprovable claim that Jewish Neocons (what&#8217;s the difference, eh?) were behind the Iraq invasion and the &#8216;war on terror&#8217;.<br />
For &#8216;proof&#8217; you link to 800 Pound Gorilla, a site dedicated to examining the &#8220;growing body of research/evidence implicating an international Zionist network of criminal conspiracy against humanity&#8221;. Anti-semitic? Of course not!<br />
You make oblique references to &#8216;certain events during WWII&#8217; and &#8216;hate sites&#8217; &#8211; nothing anyone could pin on you, but definitely a nudge and wink to the Holocaust-denier cognoscenti.<br />
You talk about the &#8216;truth&#8217; behind 9/11 &#8211; let me guess: it was planned and executed by the Mossad and the CIA?<br />
I&#8217;m sure we&#8217;d agree on a lot of things, such as the evils of internet censorship and the boring uniformity of the Western media. It&#8217;s just at some point your fervour to see Jewish manipulation at every point of history has caused you and sanity to part company in a fairly severe way.<br />
From your comments and those of your readers, I&#8217;m viewed as the inevitable backlash from the Zionist whatchamajigger trying to stifle debate. But you&#8217;re the one controlling what is published here and what isn&#8217;t and you&#8217;ve made it crystal clear how you feel about dissenting opinions&#8230;<br />
Also, just because people&#8217;s responses are predictable doesn&#8217;t prove you right &#8211; they&#8217;re predictable because your Elders of Zion fantasies are so old, boring and at odds with reality.</p>
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		<title>By: mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 20:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daggett,

Hi again. Yes I agree that the wealthy elites in the US are pro &#039;war on terror&#039;. For one thing, it helps justify America&#039;s massive military spending (which is actually nothing more than a massive wealth transfer from the US taxpayer to arms manufacturers and their shareholders) at a time when there is no actual military threat to the US.

Problem is, many of those wealthy elites are very pro-Israel. Take our friend Mr. Murdoch for example. I have read that at the time of the Iraq invasion, all 200 odd publications in his global newspaper empire were baying for war---so much for editorial independence. You&#039;ll never find a serious criticism of Israel in any of his newspapers, despite the dreadful plight of the Palestinians. (if you can, please point me to it---I would love to see it). Rupert Murdoch, like all the owners of the major US media conglomerates, is a fierce and proud Zionist. Some observers suggest that the US based Zionists are even more fanatical than the ones in Israel. AIPAC is the most powerful lobby  in Washington and it controls the US Congress lock, stock and barrel. Look how Obama and McCain constantly genuflected to Israel throughout the recent campaign. Israel owns US foreign policy, no question.

Maintaining the bogus war on terror is a major component of Israel&#039;s strategy of balkanising the region, imo. To hardliners in the Likud, the Iraq war has been a major success. The US military industrial complex and the Zionist lobby are as one on the war on terror. They&#039;re partners.

That&#039;s my understanding of the issue even if the wider public with their constant diet of western media, don&#039;t agree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daggett,</p>
<p>Hi again. Yes I agree that the wealthy elites in the US are pro &#8216;war on terror&#8217;. For one thing, it helps justify America&#8217;s massive military spending (which is actually nothing more than a massive wealth transfer from the US taxpayer to arms manufacturers and their shareholders) at a time when there is no actual military threat to the US.</p>
<p>Problem is, many of those wealthy elites are very pro-Israel. Take our friend Mr. Murdoch for example. I have read that at the time of the Iraq invasion, all 200 odd publications in his global newspaper empire were baying for war&#8212;so much for editorial independence. You&#8217;ll never find a serious criticism of Israel in any of his newspapers, despite the dreadful plight of the Palestinians. (if you can, please point me to it&#8212;I would love to see it). Rupert Murdoch, like all the owners of the major US media conglomerates, is a fierce and proud Zionist. Some observers suggest that the US based Zionists are even more fanatical than the ones in Israel. AIPAC is the most powerful lobby  in Washington and it controls the US Congress lock, stock and barrel. Look how Obama and McCain constantly genuflected to Israel throughout the recent campaign. Israel owns US foreign policy, no question.</p>
<p>Maintaining the bogus war on terror is a major component of Israel&#8217;s strategy of balkanising the region, imo. To hardliners in the Likud, the Iraq war has been a major success. The US military industrial complex and the Zionist lobby are as one on the war on terror. They&#8217;re partners.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s my understanding of the issue even if the wider public with their constant diet of western media, don&#8217;t agree.</p>
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